Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2005 15:33:22 -0800 From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" <tedm@toybox.placo.com> To: "Duo" <duo@digitalarcadia.net>, <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: RE: MS Exchange server on FreeBSD? Message-ID: <LOBBIFDAGNMAMLGJJCKNOENHFAAA.tedm@toybox.placo.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSX.4.61.0503201441070.17363@valkyrie.local>
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owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org wrote: > On Sun, 20 Mar 2005, Anthony Atkielski wrote: > >> Duo writes: >> >>> And you failed to answer his question. Why not stop trying to avoid >>> it by answering it. >> >> I did answer it. I asked for a product that provides ALL the >> features of Exchange. And he surely knows what all of the features >> of Exchange are, otherwise he could not say with confidence that >> other UNIX products provide them. > > No, you didnt. He asked you *directly* what features we are > talking about. > you launched into a diatribe. Once again, you cop out by assuming he > "surely" knows all of the features. > > Stop avoiding, go back to the original mail, and answer the question. > Duo and Anthony, I do know what features Exchange has because the ISP I work at has a sister company that consists mainly of MCSE's who install all manner of Microsoft products, including many Exchange servers. While I don't get involved in these generally, I do get called in quite often when someone's Exchange server doesen't properly talk to the rest of the mailservers on the Internet. (ie: when they are having problems sending and receiving Internet mail) The techs in the sister company think that I probably know how to solve these problems better, obviously since I fly an ISP. I of course am more than happy to let them go spend their time fixing all manner of Windows problems for their customers. However I asked Anthony for a list of features because I am not going to provide such a list only to have him go "what about [insert some inconsequential feature] your UNIX solution is lacking it so it must be crap" In short, if he wants to tell me what features he thinks are significant Exchange features I can tell him what the UNIX equivalents are. Otherwise I am not going to play guessing games. Anthony's original assertion was that -nothing- not even a combination of programs on UNIX could supply all features that Exchange supplies. Then it changed into 'no one single program' when he realized he was on a thin tree limb. > > And now that embrace and extend has worked, Exchange, sits fairly > stagnant. > Actually I don't agree with that statement Duo. Every new version of Exchange has gotten bigger, fatter, more complex, slower, and harder and harder to troubleshoot when there is a problem. Sure there are more features, but the price is the black box has gotten so large that you cannot fix anything in it anymore. > > I prefer to take the choice out of the users hands. MDaemon > virus scans > mail as it comes in. Users never get a chance to possibly infect > their system. > Today it is completely irresponsible to set up a corporate mailsystem that lacks mandatory virus scanning. Ted
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