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Date:      Mon, 03 May 2004 12:19:24 -0400
From:      Brian Fundakowski Feldman <green@freebsd.org>
To:        "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: missing libncurses.so.5 and other lib* 
Message-ID:  <200405031619.i43GJO9m005846@green.homeunix.org>
In-Reply-To: Message from "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>  <20040503152920.744795D07@ptavv.es.net> 

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"Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net> wrote:
> > Date: Sun, 02 May 2004 19:33:21 -0700
> > From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
> > Sender: owner-freebsd-current@freebsd.org
> > 
> > Joshua Boyd wrote:
> > 
> > >> If you have a /rescue directory (which you should), then
> > >> boot into single user mode and specify /rescue/sh as your
> > >> shell.  Next, mount your filesystems with /rescue/mount
> > >> and restore the missing libraries from your backup tapes.
> > >>
> > >>  
> > >>
> > > Yes, I'm sure that he has backup tapes for his laptop.  *rolls eyes*
> > 
> > You mean you don't back up the contents of your laptop that runs 
> > -CURRENT?  You must like living dangerously and/or spending lots of time 
> > recovering from errors.
> 
> Lots of people live dangerously for a long time without realizing it.
> I've been running CURRENT on my laptop since months before 5.0-Release
> and I think I've only had to resort to my backup once. If I had been
> luckier, it would have never happened. (And, if my timing had been a bit
> worse, it could have happened a LOT more often.)
> 
> Until someone has been bitten, they almost never do backups and, after
> being bitten they get careless after a while. Takes a few bites (or a
> really nasty one) before the lesson is really learned.

I never lost a single thing to -CURRENT (lost a few "just modified" files to 
SoftUpdates/fsck default behavior, though) on my system for over half a 
decade -- in fact, I don't remember reinstalling since 1998 or so -- until 
an actual hardware failure recently.  One CPU fan stopped and the 
temperatures got high enough I saw corruption of almost every partition on 
one hard drive (thankfully, though, not /home).

I would never choose to equate running -CURRENT with "living dangerously."  
I know there are several cases in the past where certain drivers have been 
screwed up for a short period of time such that users of those 
less-ubiquitous devices would see that, but not stuff like normal IDE hard 
drives.

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Brian Fundakowski Feldman                           \'[ FreeBSD ]''''''''''\
  <> green@FreeBSD.org                               \  The Power to Serve! \
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