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Date:      Mon, 20 Dec 2004 21:56:12 +0000
From:      Dick Davies <rasputnik@hellooperator.net>
To:        David Landgren <david@landgren.net>
Cc:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: bash - superuser
Message-ID:  <20041220215612.GC21442@lb.tenfour>
In-Reply-To: <41C70EAB.2000302@landgren.net>
References:  <41C6AC75.6020608@uol.com.br> <20041220120620.GA68520@duplo.dahoam> <20041220133252.GB7774@lb.tenfour> <41C70EAB.2000302@landgren.net>

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* David Landgren <david@landgren.net> [1241 17:41]:
> Dick Davies wrote:

> >To the original poster: just be root and run 'chsh'.
> 
> No.
> 
> When you are logged in as root, you *should* have to go through extra 
> hoops to get comfortable.

On my box I have a # prompt to tell me I'm root. I don't sit on a drawing
pin when I su just to remind me I have godly powers, and I don't see why I 
should be banging zeroes together to get ones when I can be more productive 
(and therefore spend less time with escalated privileges) in bash.

> I am not saying that you should not use bash when logged in as root. I 
> am saying that you should not configure your root account to login with 
> shell that is dysfunctional if /usr is unmounted. 

Look, if /usr is unmounted and you are logged in, you are on the console :

root@bingo gdm2 # which sshd
/usr/sbin/sshd

so you may as well be single user and pick the shell you want. If /usr is
hosed, run /bin/*sh. What's the problem?

>Yes, 'exec zsh' or 
> whatever is a minor hassle, but it's there to remind you that root is 
> different.

Sorry, but this is just dogma. Give me a benefit of not changing roots shell
that isn't either:

a) csh is really shitty, so encourages you not to su
b) if your shell is in /usr you will be screwed if /usr is unmounted
c) 'bash is for teh lam0rs' ( ok no-ones explicitly mentioned this yet, but admit it,
   it entered your head :) )

or let's just drop it.

This thread has come back from the dead more than Captain Scarlet,
it just gets my goat everytime I hear the same dubious arguments.


-- 
'Everyone's always in favour of saving Hitler's brain, but when you put it
in the body of a Great White shark suddenly you've gone too far..'
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