Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2000 08:54:03 -0600 From: Stacy Millions <stacy@millions.ca> To: "Scott D. Yelich" <scott@scottyelich.com> Cc: freebsd-mobile@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Who broke "ls" in FreeBSD? and why? Message-ID: <39F5A28B.BB3F3708@Millions.CA> References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0010232253210.23207-100000@hackme.spy.org>
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"Scott D. Yelich" wrote:
>
> Sorry, I can't hold back any longer:
>
> -A List all entries except for `.' and `..'. Always set for
> the super-user.
>
> Would someone please be so kind as to explain to me the rationale behind
> that? Why should a user or script have to be forced to get dot files
> just because it's running under uid 0? This seems to really have a
> major impact on portable scripts ... they have a chance to be dangerous
> under FreeBSD now -- due to this setting.
The rational for what? Why -A is always set for the super-user or why ls
doesn't show files that start with a '.'
> Why is FreeBSD trying to be like 'blows where it tries to think for the
> user? Only, it's much worse than that as there doesn't appear to be a
> way to override this setting.
>
> This doesn't appear to be the default forGNU ls, so who "broke" this?
It has been a *nix convention to "hide" files by starting them with a
'.' since the first *nix I ever saw (that would be V6). Hence a
.profile (I know it is there I don't need to see it every time I do
an ls)
Since when is the "GNU way" the "right way"?
And what on earth does any of this have to do with FreeBSD Mobile?
And why am I adding to it? :-)
-stacy
--
Nothing spoils fun like finding out it builds character.
- Calvin
Stacy Millions stacy@millions.ca
Millions Consulting Limited
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