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Date:      Fri, 6 Jul 2018 12:15:55 +0200
From:      Hans Petter Selasky <hps@selasky.org>
To:        Johannes Lundberg <johalun0@gmail.com>, Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
Cc:        Niclas Zeising <zeising+freebsd@daemonic.se>, Warner Losh <imp@bsdimp.com>, jhb@freebsd.org, Pete Wright <pete@nomadlogic.org>, ohartmann@walstatt.org, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: atomic changes break drm-next-kmod?
Message-ID:  <1cd8c3c6-5d85-fbf3-cc06-1df8282216a1@selasky.org>
In-Reply-To: <CAECmPwtBJEp_4fFLr1KZhKu2ZJfSGANBD21C0OXUZ=-qfomNBQ@mail.gmail.com>
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On 07/06/18 11:14, Johannes Lundberg wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 9:49 AM Konstantin Belousov <kostikbel@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 09:52:24AM +0200, Niclas Zeising wrote:
>>> On 07/06/18 00:02, Warner Losh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 1:44 PM, John Baldwin <jhb@freebsd.org
>>>> <mailto:jhb@freebsd.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>      On 7/5/18 12:36 PM, Konstantin Belousov wrote:
>>>>       > On Thu, Jul 05, 2018 at 09:12:24PM +0200, Hans Petter Selasky
>> wrote:
>>>>       >> On 07/05/18 20:59, Hans Petter Selasky wrote:
>>>>       >>> On 07/05/18 19:48, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>> On 07/05/2018 10:10, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>>       >>>>> On 7/3/18 5:10 PM, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> On 07/03/2018 15:56, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>> On 7/3/18 3:34 PM, Pete Wright wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>> On 07/03/2018 15:29, John Baldwin wrote:
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> That seems like kgdb is looking at the wrong CPU.  Can
>>>>      you use
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> 'info threads' and look for threads not stopped in
>>>>      'sched_switch'
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> and get their backtraces?  You could also just do
>> 'thread
>>>>      apply
>>>>       >>>>>>>>> all bt' and put that file at a URL if that is easiest.
>>>>       >>>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>> sure thing John - here's a gist of "thread apply all bt"
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>>>
>>>>      https://gist.github.com/gem-pete/d8d7ab220dc8781f0827f965f09d43ed
>>>>      <https://gist.github.com/gem-pete/d8d7ab220dc8781f0827f965f09d43ed
>>>
>>>>       >>>>>>> That doesn't look right at all.  Are you sure the kernel
>>>>      matches the
>>>>       >>>>>>> vmcore?  Also, which kgdb version are you using?
>>>>       >>>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> yea i agree that doesn't look right at all.  here is my
>> setup:
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> $ which kgdb
>>>>       >>>>>> /usr/bin/kgdb
>>>>       >>>>>> $ kgdb
>>>>       >>>>>> GNU gdb 6.1.1 [FreeBSD]
>>>>       >>>>>> $ ls -lh /var/crash/vmcore.1
>>>>       >>>>>> -rw-------  1 root  wheel   1.6G Jul  3 15:03
>>>>      /var/crash/vmcore.1
>>>>       >>>>>> $ ls -l /usr/lib/debug/boot/kernel/kernel.debug
>>>>       >>>>>> -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  87840496 Jul  3 13:54
>>>>       >>>>>> /usr/lib/debug/boot/kernel/kernel.debug
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> and i invoke kgdb like so:
>>>>       >>>>>> $ sudo kgdb /usr/lib/debug/boot/kernel/kernel.debug
>>>>      /var/crash/vmcore.1
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> here's a gist of my full gdb session:
>>>>       >>>>>> http://termbin.com/krsn
>>>>       >>>>>>
>>>>       >>>>>> dunno - maybe i have a bad core dump?  regardless, more
>> than
>>>>      happy to
>>>>       >>>>>> help so let me know if i should try anything else or
>> patches
>>>>      etc..
>>>>       >>>>> Can you try installing gdb from ports and using
>>>>      /usr/local/bin/kgdb?
>>>>       >>>>>
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>> that seems to have done the trick, at least the output looks
>> more
>>>>       >>>> encouraging.
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>>   --- trap 0, rip = 0, rsp = 0, rbp = 0 ---
>>>>       >>>> KDB: enter: panic
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>> __curthread () at ./machine/pcpu.h:231
>>>>       >>>> 231        __asm("movq %%gs:%1,%0" : "=r" (td)
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>> here's my full kgdb session:
>>>>       >>>> http://termbin.com/qa4f
>>>>       >>>>
>>>>       >>>> i don't see any threads not in "sched_switch" though :(
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> Hi,
>>>>       >>>
>>>>       >>> The problem may be that the patch to enable atomic inlining
>> of all
>>>>       >>> macros forgot to set the SMP keyword which means SMP is not
>>>>      defined at
>>>>       >>> all for KLD's so all non-kernel atomic usage is with MPLOCKED
>>>>      empty!
>>>>       > Problem is that out-of-tree modules build does not have opt*.h
>> files
>>>>       > from the kernel.  UP config is a valid one, flipping some
>> option's
>>>>       > default value does not solve the problem.
>>>>
>>>>      Yes, but using the lock prefix in a generic module is ok (it will
>> still
>>>>      work, just not quite as fast) whereas the lack of lock is fatal on
>>>>      SMP.  I would amend Hans' patch slightly to honor the opt_* setting
>>>>      for KLD_TIED (but that is only true if KLD_TIED means "built as
>> part of
>>>>      a kernel build, so has valid opt_foo.h headers" and not
>>>>      'a standalone module where someone put MODULES_TIED=1 on the
>> command
>>>>      line
>>>>      to make').
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I agree with this default. It's sensible to default to (a) the most
>>>> popular thing and (b) thing that always works, especially when (a) and
>>>> (b) are identical.
>>>>
>>>> Don't make me start the "Do we really need an SMP option, why not make
>>>> it always on" thread :) The number of relevant uniprocessor x86 boxes
>>>> that benefit from omitting SMP is so small as to be irrelevant, IMHO.
>> A
>>>> MP kernel runs just fine on them...
>>>>
>>>> Warner
>>>
>>> Where are we on this?
>>> It is important to get it fixed, it's already been 4 days, which means 4
>>> days of all modern FreeBSD desktop systems being broken, and possibly
>>> other systems with kernel modules from ports as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Another question, how hard would it be to expose how the kernel was
>>> built to modules built from ports, so that they can figure out stuff
>>> like SMP and others, that might affect the module build?
>> Point the KERNBUILDDIR variable to the directory of the kernel build.
>> This is the directory where *.o and opt*.h are located.  Then everything
>> would just work.
>>
> 
> Is the solution that we require everyone to build a kernel before they can
> build the standalone modules or am I missing something here?
> 

Hi,

Here is a temporary fix:
https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/base/336025

Like Konstantin says this issue needs to be revisited.

--HPS



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