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Date:      Mon, 15 Oct 2007 22:26:38 +0100 (BST)
From:      Robert Watson <rwatson@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Alexander Leidinger <netchild@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>, src-committers@freebsd.org, cvs-src@freebsd.org, Joao Barros <joao.barros@gmail.com>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc Makefile sensorsd.conf src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/rc.d Makefile sensorsd src/lib/libc/gen sysctl.3 src/sbin/sysctl sysctl.8 sysctl.c src/share/man/man5 rc.conf.5 src/share/man/man9 Makefile sensor_attach.9 src/sys/conf f
Message-ID:  <20071015221917.X9055@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <20071015193658.138fc9a5@deskjail>
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On Mon, 15 Oct 2007, Alexander Leidinger wrote:

> Wait please. It was on the ides list before the soc and during the soc.
> There where links to an overview and to source files.

This is precisely why I've been concerned about the way things get randomly 
put in the ideas list--something I've e-mailed you about many times.  People 
take it to represent a list of things we want, and frequently, items on the 
list are not things that we want.  Sometimes they are things that should be 
looked at, and perhaps used or perhaps not, but often they are things 
apparently hoovered up off a mailing list without thinking about whether they 
are actually a good idea, and without talking to developers who have expertise 
in the area they relate to.

We either need to clearly document when ideas are things to explore rather 
than things to assume are a shopping list, or we need to take the dubious 
ideas off the list.  We also need to make sure that every idea on the list has 
a competent "owner" who is able to properly direct the work of a volunteer, 
and make sure they understand when something is commit-path or just "look and 
see if it might make sense".

Robert N M Watson
Computer Laboratory
University of Cambridge



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