Date: Wed, 13 Sep 2000 10:45:21 -0400 (EDT) From: Chris Coleman <chrisc@vmunix.com> To: Michael Lucas <mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org> Cc: Ignacio Cristerna <ignacioc@avantel.net>, freebsd newbies <freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG>, freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: BSD Magazine Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.4.21.0009131036440.758-100000@vnode.vmunix.com> In-Reply-To: <20000913102805.A69843@blackhelicopters.org>
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Daemon News has always been interested in having a print version. But we would need some pretty good sponsorship to get it to happen. All of us still have day jobs. It would definately be a full time job for a small staff of dedicated people. We would love to be a part of it if anyone makes any progress. However, we have too many other things going on to work on it ourselves at this point. We did approach someone last year, but they said the market wasn't ready yet. I don't know if it will be now or not. Chris Coleman Daemon News http://www.daemonnews.org Bringing BSD together On Wed, 13 Sep 2000, Michael Lucas wrote: > I actually have some experience in publishing, and working with > publishers. There's two ways we could make this a reality. > > 1) Do it ourselves. > > This is a pain, and less "legit" looking. We could put a plan > together and try to get some fancy corporate backing (i.e., BSDi), but > then we need to assemble distributors, handle record-keeping, etc. > It's not a small job. Doing it single-handedly is a really, *really* > sucky and thankless job. (I used to work for AGIS; believe me, I know > "sucky".) With corporate backing it would be a full-time job. > > 2) Convince a media conglomerate to do it. > > Media companies will publish anything that there is a market for. > They need print runs of a good 5,000-10,000 magazines to make it even > vaguely worthwhile. The editors need to know that they can sell that > many copies of a magazine. > > This boils down to, people need to ask for the magazine. Just like in > software support. Polite grassroots efforts, and so on. > > The editors also need to see articles on the same topic in other > magazines, for cross-pollination. > > My summation: if you want to see a BSD magazine, make a two-pronged > effort: > > a) contact editors and ask for it. Politely. > > b) sell BSD articles to print magazines > > c) Involve the other BSDs in a) and b). This is a case where numbers > matter big-time, just like counting page views. > > I'm giving a talk on b) at BSDCon, and will hopefully make a revised > paper available after the conference. > > ==ml > > On Wed, Sep 13, 2000 at 08:59:34AM -0500, Ignacio Cristerna wrote: > > After seeing all this Linux frenzy, I keep wondering and thinking about the > > same thing. There are currently 2 Linux magazines that I know of. Is it too > > much to ask to have a BSD magazine. I think that we should aim for a more > > streamlined format, maybe a PDF or PS file that everyone could print out or > > a magazine with a few pages. I believe the point would be to create a sense > > of community and let the rest of the world that we are here, that we are > > have a good "product" to offer. > > Just my 2 centavos. > > > > Greetings to the FreeBSD community (with or without magazine) from > > Monterrey, Mexico. > > -- > Michael Lucas > mwlucas@blackhelicopters.org > http://www.blackhelicopters.org/~mwlucas/ > Big Scary Daemons: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/q/Big_Scary_Daemons > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-advocacy" in the body of the message
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