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Date:      Thu, 4 Jun 1998 17:34:38 -0500 (EST)
From:      "John S. Dyson" <dyson@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        nate@mt.sri.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        mike@smith.net.au, nate@mt.sri.com, dyson@FreeBSD.ORG, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: kernfs/procfs questions...
Message-ID:  <199806042234.RAA00343@dyson.iquest.net>
In-Reply-To: <199806042222.QAA04845@mt.sri.com> from Nate Williams at "Jun 4, 98 04:22:53 pm"

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Nate Williams said:
> > > I'm not saying that kernfs would make this easier, but if I had a tuning
> > > program that allowed me to tune it (man 8 vmtune), then it would be
> > > *better* documented.  Maybe I'm not screaming so much for the
> > > implementation, but the interface and the way that new sysctl are added
> > > w/out any regard to documentation/accessing them. :(
> > 
> > I think we are perilously close to agreement here.
> > 
> > You could argue that the absensce of such a utility implies that the 
> > nodes are not there for your general tweaking.  ie. they are not 
> > exposed to your interface and thus you can effectively ignore them...
> 
> I argue shouldn't be exposed to the users then.  If it's exposed, it
> should be documented.  In other words, sysctl should go away since very
> few (if any) of it's knobs are documented except accidentally.
> 
If you shouldn't use sysctl, then don't run it.  If you shouldn't
manipulate /dev/rwd0 or /dev/kmem, then don't do that either.  Ignore
it, and since it won't appear in the filesystem tree, then all will be
well.

-- 
John                  | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
dyson@freebsd.org     | it just makes you look stupid,
jdyson@nc.com         | and it irritates the pig.

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