Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2017 17:46:15 +0100 From: Kurt Jaeger <lists@opsec.eu> To: scratch65535@att.net Cc: freebsd-ports <ports@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Install of pkg fuse-ntfs fails because of undefined symbol in pkg!?! Message-ID: <20170210164615.GQ13006@home.opsec.eu> In-Reply-To: <lnbr9cdn91jr8vtkecdv6enkafanjh8adg@4ax.com> References: <dvvl9chf9h22dpjto35d44enid819p9rnc@4ax.com> <h91m9cpbmp6js1km1bson74he5uuui9r6h@4ax.com> <1c6cccac-b151-d13c-c763-b336c4680118@freebsd.org> <ndjm9cl4samqgioi25ro8p2q6liimvr1h4@4ax.com> <35a953e3-918b-fc32-d990-51f7da16c884@FreeBSD.org> <AE0D514C-D235-462D-B31D-66FC619D9F4D@lastsummer.de> <20170209161249.GL2092@kib.kiev.ua> <20170209162600.GP13006@home.opsec.eu> <lnbr9cdn91jr8vtkecdv6enkafanjh8adg@4ax.com>
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Hi! > On Thu, 9 Feb 2017 17:26:00 +0100, Kurt Jaeger wrote > >Getting the ports/pkg tree moving with the velocity necessary > >to cope with the fast-changing world, sometimes things break > >and we all try to prevent this. Sometimes, mistakes happen... > > But it's the velocity that's the problem, Kurt. While I very much sympathize with "The world rotates too fast, I want to get off", for me it looks like as a project we do not have alternatives. > Do you know of anyone who has successfully defended, or even > tried to defend, the current manic pace of revision and > obsoleting? Is it defense, if we see many projects (open source etc) shorten their cycle time (e.g. php7), because they see the need to add features or patch security issues (and breaks APIs/ABIs doing either) ? And if we try to keep up and for this, if we add features to the ports framework ? I'm doing this (application mgmt on unix systems) for a long time now, a quarter of a century, and I see no viable alternative in the problem space we work in. I also see that this very fast speed uses up huge amounts of person power and compute resources (all those folks rebuilding many ports in their build hosts). But it's not easy to stop off this planet 8-} -- pi@opsec.eu +49 171 3101372 3 years to go !
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