Date: Wed, 27 Mar 2002 07:57:05 +0100 From: "Karsten W. Rohrbach" <karsten@rohrbach.de> To: Helge Oldach <helge.oldach@atosorigin.com> Cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: HEADS UP: sendmail 8.12.2 MFC'ed Message-ID: <20020327075705.A34517@mail.webmonster.de> In-Reply-To: <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com>; from helge.oldach@atosorigin.com on Tue, Mar 26, 2002 at 11:26:57PM %2B0100 References: <20020326223457.B25907@mail.webmonster.de> <200203262226.XAA27664@galaxy.de.cp.philips.com>
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--BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Helge Oldach(helge.oldach@atosorigin.com)@2002.03.26 23:26:57 +0000: [...] > standard, well- and widely-known piece of software around. You may not > like it but both S******* and B*** are the de facto standards. Period. they are not, but this is not the issue. "it is just convenient to have emacs in the base system", it's a de facto standard, it's widely known and i guess it's much more widespread than the use of sendmail. but, again, this is not the issue here. why not have apache in the base dist? (to quote one part of the original again). > You have all hooks to throw them away and substitute them with something > different, so please don't bother the world if they don't grok your > personal taste. this isn't about my "personal taste", this is about "philosophy", just as i stated in the other pragraph you generously deleted. thank you. > Not another sendmail-versus-whatever discussion please... Please! this isn't it neither. re-read the original mail and think about it again. > P.S. Get rid of vi; cat should be enough for everyone! do you really expect me to comment on this? btw, "guessing" from the domain part of you mail address, you should actually be interested in straightforwardness and stability of implementations in the field your company operates in, shouldn't you? btw2, it's very hard to make a point if the first sentence of an email ends with "period.", even harder if you fail to make a point in your whole argumentation. btw3, if you didn't still did not understand what i meant in the original mail (i know, i'm not a native english speaker, so are you, so the chosen language might not be as efficient due to my deficiencies), please think about it _again_. it is about simplicity of implementation. straighforwardness. ease of administration. this in context to what i see as the basic paradigms in bsd's design. and this all in relation to "how-it-is-done in -RELEASE". i don't want to change somebody's lifestyle. i don't want to change the release engineer's way of thinking. i want the people involved to think about the questions i posed in the original mail and i _know_ that this is a good idea. with=20 people like you, "guarding" the borders of "their" sandlot, of course,=20 there's not as much probability to come to a point of _discussion_, because you appear to _insist_ on the correctness of your view of the world. fwiw, let me tell you one thing my friend: when the catholic church around 1490 AD taught a picture of a world being flat as a dish, columbus was apparently the only one idealistic enough to prove them wrong. this was not the result of saying "we did this since 1300, why should we think different now?". you get my point. have a nice day, /k --=20 > Coders do it with a routine. KR433/KR11-RIPE -- WebMonster Community Founder -- nGENn GmbH Senior Techie http://www.webmonster.de/ -- ftp://ftp.webmonster.de/ -- http://www.ngenn.n= et/ GnuPG 0x2964BF46 2001-03-15 42F9 9FFF 50D4 2F38 DBEE DF22 3340 4F4E 2964 B= F46 My mail is GnuPG signed -- Unsigned ones are bogus -- http://www.gnupg.org/ Please do not remove my address from To: and Cc: fields in mailing lists. 1= 0x --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (FreeBSD) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8oW1AM0BPTilkv0YRAr6nAKCwS1z5vZh2wX7OwYWoenEMDfsMjwCdGOBE HDjMMLG2M6qWhdXlapbd1J8= =BWod -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --BXVAT5kNtrzKuDFl-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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