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Date:      Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:02:45 +0200
From:      Martin Jessa <freebsd@yazzy.org>
To:        freebsd-isp@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: is 5.x still too unstable?
Message-ID:  <20030910230245.56dea542.freebsd@yazzy.org>
In-Reply-To: <200309101652.34637.x@Vex.Net>
References:  <200309101652.34637.x@Vex.Net>

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Hi.

I moved all our production servers to 5.1. 
I've never had problems with any of them.
I have one 5.1 box doing all sorts of things for a small ISP.
It works as vpn server, mail server, web server, router, dns, dhcp, proxy and sql.
So far after 2 months of uptime I didnt even have to touch it.
The only one I did not dare to touch yet is our firewall and internal dns/dhcp server(years of uptime :) ).
Hell, I even run one production box on 5.1-CURRENT and it works great.
I'd say 5.1 works well enough to use it on servers.



On Wed, 10 Sep 2003 16:52:34 -0400
Tim Middleton <x@Vex.Net> wrote:

> 
> I am hoping to move some of the servers in our ISP to FreeBSD. I have been 
> rather hoping 5.2 would be reliable enough, so that we can move to it and 
> enjoy all the -CURRENT goodness. 
> 
> The test server locked up yesterday, during some heavy port building, after 
> running for weeks with no problem.  (-; I've not gone to investigate the 
> cause yet. But it has me nervous. It's been difficult to get FreeBSD accepted 
> at all here, so I'm wanting it to make a good impression.
> 
> I have run 5 at home since 5.0-Release (currently 20030821 snapshot); and 
> while there have been problems now and again with a few builds, once these 
> have been solved my system here has been really very stable, which gave me 
> hope it would be also OK for work... 
> 
> So what is the general opinion of those here? Should i play it safe and go 
> back to 4.x until 5.x becomes officially "stable". Or do people think that 
> for most general purpose stuff 5.x should be generally stable "enough"? 
> "Enough" is a bit of a difficult word to define... of course one wants rock 
> solid for a server... but one may be able to tolerate some sorts of problems 
> as long as they can be sorted out quickly, and things are moving towards 
> ultimate stability in the near future. These aren't huge servers (no 
> multi-processor)... but moderately busy. Running the usual sorts of things... 
> apache, postfix, python, zope, nfs, etc. 
> 
> I realise my post may be a little premature when I haven't even checked out 
> what seems to have taken the test box down yet; but it's been on my mind to 
> solicit opinions here before this happened, so... any thoughts or experiences 
> running 5x on ISP servers to share out there? Are some snapshots known to be 
> better than others? Any tips/tweaks on making 5.x just a little more 
> stable---even at the cost of performance---than a default install (like 
> disabling acpi, as the first thing).
> 
> -- 
> Tim Middleton | Cain Gang Ltd | A man is rich in proportion to the number of
> x@veX.net     | www.Vex.Net   | things which he can afford to let alone. HDT
> 
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