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Date:      Sun, 16 Dec 2001 15:33:53 +0100
From:      "Alson van der Meulen" <alm@flutnet.org>
To:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: serial console (was: Determining Crash cause?)
Message-ID:  <20011216153353.Y10171@md2.mediadesign.nl>
In-Reply-To: <20011216150752.A1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org>
References:  <3C1B2681.2E507732@vortex.wa4phy.net> <20011215204911.E22667@freeway.dcfinc.com> <20011216150752.A1494@shell.gsinet.sittig.org>

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On Sun, Dec 16, 2001 at 03:07:53PM +0100, Gerhard Sittig wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 20:49 -0700, Chad R. Larson wrote:
> > 
> > On Sat, Dec 15, 2001 at 05:31:29AM -0500, Sam Drinkard wrote:
> > > Is there any known method to determine the cause of a crash
> > > when there is no panic, no log entries, or other evidence?
> > > [ ... ]
> > 
> > Build a kernel with debugging, connect a terminal (or pc running
> > Hyperterm or some other equivelant) to a serial port on the FreeBSD
> > box, configure for console port, set the Hyperterm to log and then
> > wait for the next crash.  See if anything useful is captured in the
> > log.
> 
> I have a maybe dumb question:  Whenever I (sparadically) checked
> the Handbook since I'm in this situation to keep boot logs of
> systems without installing a system I only see explanations of
> what to do to the "controlled" system.  Shouldn't there be at
> least one mention of the "counterpart" in terms of which base
> system program or port could be "the terminal"?  Doing a quick
> "man -k serial", "man -k console", and "man -k terminal" doesn't
> reveal anything appropriate, while the "SEE ALSO" section in
> getty(8) -- which looks like the most promising place to look
> at -- doesn't have a reference to the "other side" either.
cu(1), tip(1), /usr/ports/comms/minicom, to name a few, but nothing
really dedicated for this purpose.

Alson

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