Date: 27 Jul 2002 20:19:23 -0700 From: Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us> To: sroberts@dsl.pipex.com Cc: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>, Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com>, freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Recompiled Sawfish, now startx works only for root WAS [Re: Newly instalu esaEvitar ecd dee Message-ID: <1027826363.68618.2.camel@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> In-Reply-To: <1027817252.33439.12.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> References: <F125OpoUyE6ZnFDenr30002671c@hotmail.com> <1027780596.76796.9.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027790105.46963.3.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1027798187.32700.3.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027802981.48261.3.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1027807293.32700.25.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027804772.48261.23.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1027811128.32700.44.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027807773.48261.41.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1027813188.33191.11.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com> <1027809695.48261.45.camel@shumai.marcuscom.com> <1027817252.33439.12.camel@Demon.vickiandstacey.com>
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On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 17:47, Stacey Roberts wrote:=20 > Hi Joe, > Just a couple of points here after configuring Sawfish and the > mouse:- >=20 > 1] The I am unable to move a window (eg Evolution) by left-click + hold > the window bar (at the top) and drag the window to another point on > screen. There is no setting to affect this. Position the mouse in the title bar and pause for 2 seconds. The tooltips help box should appear. > 2] Scrolling up and down a window (eg gnome terminal) by left-click + > hold and dragging up and down. Are you clicking on the scroll bar, or in the terminal output window?=20 > Its much better now, but I'm hoping that the above two issues are known, > and as such, have some procedures for getting around them. >=20 > Thanks for the time. >=20 > Stacey =20 >=20 > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 23:41, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 19:39, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > Joe.., you're a DUDE! > > >=20 > > > That's sorted out the Sawfish issue for me wholesale! All appears fi= ne > > > now with Sawfish, and I was able to run the Sawfish configuration too= l > > > and set things up as I prefer. > > >=20 > > > Do you think that it was down to wrong permissions on Sawfish dirs th= at > > > caused my problems? > >=20 > > Yes. > >=20 > > >=20 > > > On another note. I'll be doing the following now: > > >=20 > > > 1] Edit ~/.xinitrc (I presume I don't have to exit from X) to include= : > > > exec /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session > >=20 > > Nope. > >=20 > > >=20 > > > 2] Exit from X > > >=20 > > > 3] Edit /etc/X11/XF86Config to include these options for the 2 button > > > mouse: > > >=20 > > > Section "InputDevice" > > > Identifier "Mouse0" > > > Driver "mouse" > > > Option "Protocol" "auto" > > > Option "Device" "/dev/mouse" > > > Option "Emulate3Buttons" > > > EndSection > > >=20 > > > 4] Edit /etc/rc.conf to include:=20 > > > moused_enable=3D"YES" > > > moused_flags=3D"-3" > > >=20 > > > 5] As non-root user, run moused -p /dev/psm0 -t auto -3 > >=20 > > moused should run as root. > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Please let me know the above looks okay for what is required for the > > > mouse to work okay: > > >=20 > > > Thanks again for all of your patience, and willingness to help! > >=20 > > No problem. > >=20 > > Joe > >=20 > > >=20 > > > Stacey > > >=20 > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 23:09, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 19:05, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > Okay, let me make sure I have this procedure down correct here= : > > > > > 1] Log off from X > > > > > 2] su to root > > > > > 3] Delete (as root) /tmp/.sawfish-stacey > > > >=20 > > > > 3.25] Delete _all_ /tmp/.sawfish* directories > > > > 3.5] Exit from su back to user stacey > > > >=20 > > > > > 4] Run "startx" to log into X again > > > > > 5] I should now be able to configure Sawfish in gnomecontrolcente= r > > > >=20 > > > > Yes, if you do the steps I listed above. > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > I'm not sure what you meant by ensuring that I use Xwrapper to st= art X. > > > > > I only use what I've installed (the wrapper port) in order to use > > > > > "startx" to start X > > > >=20 > > > > When I say Xwrapper, I mean the wrapper port. > > > >=20 > > > > Joe > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > Please let me know if there's some chance I'm not using the corre= ct > > > > > procedure here. > > > > >=20 > > > > > Stacey > > > > >=20 > > > > >=20 > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 22:19, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 18:01, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > I've not got copy paste working with my mouse here at the = moment > > > > > > > working on that as well :-( but I'll type the output here: > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Make sure you're using moused, and have your protocol in your X= F86Config > > > > > > file set to Auto. If the button is only a two-button mouse, ma= ke sure > > > > > > you're starting moused with the -3 flag, and you have the corre= ct > > > > > > Emulate3Buttons option set for your mouse in XF86Config. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > As non-root user: > > > > > > > bash-2.05a$ /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui > > > > > > > error: can't connect to socket > > > > > > > /tmp/.sawfish-stacey/<host>.mydomainname.com:0.0 > > > > > > > *** Error: can't connect to sawfish on display, :0 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Does /tmp/.sawfish-stacey/ exist? What are the permissions? H= ow about > > > > > > the <host>.mydomainname.com:0.0 socket? > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > As root after the above failure: > > > > > > > # /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui > > > > > > > GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager: > > > > > > > Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication = protocols > > > > > > > specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. > > > > > > > error: can't connect to socket > > > > > > > /tmp/.sawfish-stacey/<host>.mydomainname.com:0.0 > > > > > > > *** Error: can't connect to sawfish on display, :0 > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Hope this proves helpful. > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > About your other e-mail concerning the contents of ~/.xinitrc= , what I > > > > > > > have in the file is only what's written in the FBSD Handbook = 2nd Ed Pg > > > > > > > 137 > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > The handbook could use an update. Starting gnome-session with = exec > > > > > > greatly speeds things up when closing X. > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > Joe > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 21:49, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 15:29, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > > I ran the cmds you suggested as prescribed. One thing = to mention: > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > For the two commands: > > > > > > > > > killall gconfd-1 > > > > > > > > > killall gconfd-2 > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > I got "no matching process found" returned. > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > On typing startx, sound now appears to be working, but I = am still unable > > > > > > > > > to configure Sawfish: Same "beep", nothing happens. > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > Some progress though., whatdya think? > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Run /usr/X11R6/bin/sawfish-ui, and send me the output. > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 18:15, Joe Marcus Clarke wrote: > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 10:36, Stacey Roberts wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Maxime > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > I got your message and advise about configuring Sawfi= sh, but its really > > > > > > > > > > > strange here. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > When I installed gnome, I didn't select any other win= dow manager (as I > > > > > > > > > > > knew that Sawfish is installed as the default window = manager anyways. I > > > > > > > > > > > was able to run the "Configure Sawfish Window Manager= " tool as root > > > > > > > > > > > after recompiling Sawfish (as per Joe Marcus Clarke's= advisory), but I > > > > > > > > > > > am not able to do so as a non-root user. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > I get the same "beep" noise and nothing happens. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > Sawfish is selected as "current" in the gnomecontrolc= enter panel when I > > > > > > > > > > > start it, so its already running! > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > If there is any log / or config files that would assi= st you, do ask and > > > > > > > > > > > I'll get that off to you. > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > Shut all X things down. Then run the following as root= : > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > killall esd > > > > > > > > > > killall oafd > > > > > > > > > > killall gconfd-1 > > > > > > > > > > killall gconfd-2 > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > rm -rf /tmp/.sawfish* > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > Then start up X again as a non-root user. Things shoul= d work for you. > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again for the reply. > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > On Sat, 2002-07-27 at 14:23, Maxime Romano wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > >CC: <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com>, <freebsd-gnome@freeb= sd.org> > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Recompiled Sawfish, now startx works = only for root WAS [Re:=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > >Newly installed > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 11:39:35 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Maxime, > > > > > > > > > > > > > That's worked for! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >However, I'm back to my original problem: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"Sawfish not running", when trying to configure Sa= wfish as ordinary user. > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > Sawfish must be running *before* you can configure = it. > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Running "sawfish" at cli returns: "You can only ru= n one window manager" > > > > > > > > > > > > You have to kill your current window manager, and s= tart sawfish quickly, or=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > else the old window manager might kick in and try t= o take over again. > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > Try something like "killall metacity;killall enligh= tenment;killall=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > sawfish;killall twm;sawfish 1&- 2&- 3&- &" That ou= ghta fix everthing up. > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > -Maxime Romano > > > > > > > > > > > >=20 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Stacey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Quoting Maxime Romano <verbophobe@hotmail.com>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No, no! To use startx, your X server must be S= UID root! Do to that, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > just > > > > > > > > > > > > > > chmod +s /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 as root and you= 're set. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > (Oh, and try to set the permissions on XFree86.= 0.log to what they were. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Something might break.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -Maxime Romano > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: <sroberts@dsl.pipex.com> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >To: robert Backhaus <robbakfreebsd@yahoo.co.uk= > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >CC: Joe Marcus Clarke <marcus@marcuscom.com>,F= reeBSD User Questions > > > > > > > > > > > > > > List > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>,<freebsd-gnome= @FreeBSD.ORG> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Subject: Re: Recompiled Sawfish, now startx wo= rks only for root WAS > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Re: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Newly installed 4.6Stable+gnome1.4x =3D Broken= Sawfish] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2002 10:53:27 +0100 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Hi Robert, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I did as you suggested, but that only give= s me a new error: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Fatal server error: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >xf86OpenConsole: server must be suid root > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Silly question, how do I get the permissions t= o revert back to what > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >were: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"rw r r root wheel" > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >???? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Stacey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Quoting robert Backhaus <robbakfreebsd@yahoo.c= o.uk>: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- sroberts@dsl.pipex.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Joe, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I recompiled Sawfish, but now startx o= nly works > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for root. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For each user, there already exists the .= xinitrc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > file > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > with: /usr/X11R6/bin/gnome-session being = the only > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > line in there. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The error I get is: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Fatal Server Error: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cannnot open log file /var/log/XFree86.0.= log > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help me with this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Stacey > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Check the ownership of /var/log/Free86.0.lo= g > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ls /var/log/XFree86.0.log > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it should be something like rwx_w__w_ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > do chmod a+w /var/log//XFree86.0.log > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hope. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Robert Backhaus > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___________________________________________= _______ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do You Yahoo!? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! 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