Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 19:44:37 -0800 From: Studded <Studded@dal.net> To: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Help! Upgrade 2.2.5-RELEASE to 2.2-STABLE. Message-ID: <350B4EA5.AADE6836@dal.net> References: <1159.889807711@time.cdrom.com> <Pine.BSF.3.96.980314110631.19126A-100000@andrsn.stanford.edu> <19980315105605.13538@freebie.lemis.com> <19980315115154.17811@welearn.com.au> <19980315114137.59549@freebie.lemis.com> <19980315123631.07485@welearn.com.au>
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[ I'm moving this to just freebsd-stable. ] Sue Blake wrote: > > On Sun, Mar 15, 1998 at 11:41:37AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > > On Sun, 15 March 1998 at 11:51:54 +1100, Sue Blake wrote: > > > On Sun, Mar 15, 1998 at 10:56:05AM +1030, Greg Lehey wrote: > > > > > >> How would that help? That which we called ERRATA.TXT by any other > > >> name would be read as little. We had this errata about login.conf in > > >> the root directory of the 2.2.2 CD-ROM, but that didn't stop people > > >> asking all the time. > > > > > > But wasn't that the incident where the errata.txt was in error, and one had > > > to find the errata to the errata (on the FTP site I think it was) in order > > > to discover that the file had to be downloaded? Fair crack o' the > > > whip! :-) > > > > Hmm. Yes, you're right. But not a single one of all those questions > > indicated that the originator had read the ERRATA.TXT file. > > I saw a few that did, though most didn't indicate they had. I'll always be > cautious about believing an errata.txt after that experience, but I will > read them. > > Either people are somehow induced to read it, or we wear the outcome. Simple. > It doesn't help to discuss whose "fault" it is, only how to make it work. Actually *they* wear the outcome. If we've done all we can to make it work the onus is all on them, but I agree that we need to do more. [snip] > Let me try it this way. > I get the CD. It has a booklet which I read that tells me how to install. I > study it for a week, look on the CD and find much the same stuff, read it to > make sure it's the same. Make notes on paper. Then I follow all instructions > to the letter, to the best of my ability. Where have I gone wrong? You haven't. > What should I have done different, and where am I told about that? There needs to be a big pointer in that CD booklet (and the docs on the CD of course) saying "To find the very latest info and updates please point your favorite web browser to http://www.freebsd.org/very-latest-stuff.html." I think you make a good point here, and it look like Jordan is interested in making this happen. > I know I'm not > a good person but wish somebody would help me to see how to become good > before I sin, not afterwards. Please, don't cloud the good point you're making with over-emotionalization. I am one of the champions of the cause of helping people (especially new users) feel comfortable with freebsd, but you're only hurting your cause with this kind of statement. Doug -- *** Chief Operations Officer, DALnet IRC network *** *** Proud operator, designer and maintainer of the world's largest *** Internet Relay Chat server. 5,328 clients and still growing. *** Try spider.dal.net on ports 6662-4 (Powered by FreeBSD) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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