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Date:      Wed, 4 Oct 2000 00:08:27 -0700
From:      Alfred Perlstein <bright@wintelcom.net>
To:        Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>
Cc:        Kris Kennaway <kris@FreeBSD.org>, Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>, Paul Richards <paul@originative.co.uk>, Christopher Masto <chris@netmonger.net>, Warner Losh <imp@village.org>, Joseph Scott <joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu>, Brian Somers <brian@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: How long for -stable [ Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin/finger finger.c ]
Message-ID:  <20001004000827.B27736@fw.wintelcom.net>
In-Reply-To: <200010040349.VAA27923@nomad.yogotech.com>; from nate@yogotech.com on Tue, Oct 03, 2000 at 09:49:02PM -0600
References:  <kris@FreeBSD.ORG> <85378.970625261@winston.osd.bsdi.com> <20001003192158.A14805@freefall.freebsd.org> <200010040349.VAA27923@nomad.yogotech.com>

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* Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com> [001003 20:50] wrote:
> > The idea of supporting 2.x fixes isn't fundamentally unsound either,
> > it's just that no-one cares enough to do the work.
> 
> For what it's worth, I've got a couple of backported kernel fixes on my
> box (including at least one security fix) that are there because I am
> stuck on 2.2 due to hardware issues, as well as the fact that it simply
> 'works'.
> 
> However, I didn't bother making the fix available because I felt it
> might give people the wrong impression.  Just because *I* am willing to
> support a really old release such as FreeBSD 2, I still feel the users
> should be 'encouraged' to use newer releases.  By not making those fixes
> available (which were in fact rather trivial to do), those folks who
> aren't capable of fixing the bugs will be more likely to upgrade their
> systems to a newer 'more supported' release.
> 
> I think supporting older releases *really* needs to be done by a
> commercial entity (or at least folks who have a commercial stake in
> seeing it done), since the majority of developers are in it for the
> development fun, and product support is all but fun. :(

I think it's a bit selfish of you to keep these fixes to yourself,
and it's the wrong attitude to have especially if you're confident
about a fix, there's always people stuck with ancient releases in
production and could use the help.

thanks,
-- 
-Alfred Perlstein - [bright@wintelcom.net|alfred@freebsd.org]
"I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."


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