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Date:      Thu, 7 Feb 2002 02:39:58 -0500
From:      Mike Barcroft <mike@FreeBSD.ORG>
To:        Nat Lanza <nlanza@premodern.org>
Cc:        Peter Wemm <peter@wemm.org>, Joe Kelsey <joe@zircon.seattle.wa.us>, obrien@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: gcc3.x issues
Message-ID:  <20020207023958.A13664@espresso.q9media.com>
In-Reply-To: <1013064852.797.5.camel@gunboat>; from nlanza@premodern.org on Thu, Feb 07, 2002 at 01:54:12AM -0500
References:  <15457.56475.172650.789685@zircon.zircon.seattle.wa.us> <20020207031843.A6C153BAC@overcee.wemm.org> <20020206234628.R6496@espresso.q9media.com> <1013064852.797.5.camel@gunboat>

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Nat Lanza <nlanza@premodern.org> writes:
> You know, people might be less persistent about these "idiotic"
> suggestions if they got treated with some civility and respect.

From what I read, the participants in this thread were very civil and
respectful.  I don't think the original poster had given his
suggestion much thought before bringing it up though.  :(

> It's a lot more meaningful and useful to receive an explanation, even a
> brief one, about why your suggestion isn't good than it is to receive
> personal abuse. If you simply abuse someone, they're just going to think
> you're a jerk, not that their ideas are bad.

I completely agree.  I found David's explanations quite helpful in
determining the legitimacy of the original suggestion.

> More flies with honey, and all that.
> 
> I've noticed a lot of nastiness in this thread, and it's really pretty
> disappointing. Yes, you're all busy people. Yes, this is a volunteer
> project. Yes, people are never satisfied with what others do for them
> for free. That sucks, sure. But it doesn't make it okay to treat people
> like crap for daring to disagree with you.

I didn't notice much "nastiness", but I guess I wasn't really looking
for it.  I did notice that some people were wasting a developer's time
when the project as a whole needs it much more.  I'm talking,
ofcourse, about the imminent GCC upgrade that David is working on.

Best regards,
Mike Barcroft

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