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Date:      Thu, 16 Apr 1998 01:57:25 +0200 (MET DST)
From:      Stefan Bethke <stb@transit.hanse.de>
To:        Ollivier Robert <roberto@keltia.freenix.fr>
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: I withdraw the fraggin question.
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.91.980416015013.26188A-100000@transit.hanse.de>
In-Reply-To: <19980416002643.A16381@keltia.freenix.fr>

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On Thu, 16 Apr 1998, Ollivier Robert wrote:

> Speaking of static shells, my static copy of tcsh inside /sbin saved my
> machine yesterday... 
> 
> It crashed (softupdates I think) during "make installworld" leaving /bin/sh
> as "rw-------" which makes booting rather difficult :-)
> 
> Booting single user and using /sbin/tcsh as shell enabled me to "make
> installworld" again and getting my system back without going to fixit
> floppies... It is useful to have a shell not affected by "make world"
> inside "/".

I'm happy for you, but *any* standard mechanism would be affected by 
'make world'.

Now, without starting the thread again, I can understand why people are 
not quite eager to use 'ed', but if it only is used to recover from some 
simple mistake in /etc/fstab, why not use /stand/ee or the fixit floppy?

And, as it has been said by many other in this thread, where do you 
want to draw the line? At /bin/sh? At /bin/vi? At /usr/local/bin/emacs? I 
think we have all the tools to recover; and if you don't like them, make 
your own fixit floppy (using i.e. PicoBSD).

--
Stefan Bethke
Muehlendamm 12            Phone: +49-40-256848, +49-177-3504009
D-22087 Hamburg           <stefan.bethke@hanse.de>
Hamburg, Germany          <stb@freebsd.org>


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