Date: Sat, 7 Feb 2015 15:30:57 -0800 From: Alfred Perlstein <alfred@freebsd.org> To: Charles Sprickman <spork@bway.net> Cc: parv <parv@pair.com>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, Rainer Duffner <rainer@ultra-secure.de>, Greg Byshenk <freebsd@byshenk.net> Subject: Re: push a few config files to dozen or so servers Message-ID: <E15066C2-F0E6-43C0-BB64-463955BC7846@freebsd.org> In-Reply-To: <0B3C5275-47A3-400F-945D-E25EDB46A6C5@bway.net> References: <20150205130234.3fcbabfb@efreet.mimar.rs> <op.xtk288tykndu52@ronaldradial.radialsg.local> <54D37932.7010808@madpilot.net> <20150205154743.GO88387@mail0.byshenk.net> <3552828A-536D-41AB-B56D-F47AA4164A79@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <6CC9FCD8-EB12-4DD1-A76E-8F43C044340F@ultra-secure.de> <20150206223141.GA1637@holstein.holy.cow> <DEEBB5AA-0DB9-49AD-B0A4-3A485FA8B4CA@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> <0B3C5275-47A3-400F-945D-E25EDB46A6C5@bway.net>
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On Feb 7, 2015, at 11:15 AM, Charles Sprickman wrote: > On Feb 7, 2015, at 12:17 PM, Paul Mather <paul@gromit.dlib.vt.edu> = wrote: >=20 >> On Feb 6, 2015, at 5:31 PM, parv <parv@pair.com> wrote: >>=20 >>> in message <6CC9FCD8-EB12-4DD1-A76E-8F43C044340F@ultra-secure.de>, >>> wrote Rainer Duffner thusly... >>>>=20 >>> ... >>>> I???ve always wanted to try ansible, which looks like it has >>>> decent support for FreeBSD. >>>>=20 >>>> Anybody got experience with that? >>>=20 >>> =46rom Dan L (not me) ... >>>=20 >>> http://dan.langille.org/2013/12/22/ansible-versus-salt/ >>>=20 >>> https://twitter.com/search?q=3Dfrom%3Adlangille%20ansible&src=3Dtypd >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> - parv >>=20 >>=20 >> One of the reasons I've been looking at Salt recently is because of = this post in December 2014 by Craig Rodrigues, who set up and maintains = the FreeBSD project's Jenkins cluster: >>=20 >> = https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-testing/2014-December/000693.h= tml >>=20 >> Going by that post, it seems that he is leaning towards using Salt to = manage the cluster. >>=20 >> My hope is that if jenkins.freebsd.org is using Salt for = infrastructure management then perhaps FreeBSD support might get a boost = in the Salt community. >=20 >=20 >> I'm previously familiar with Puppet and am looking at Salt at the = moment. There are similar concepts between the two, e.g., pillars =3D = hiera; grains =3D facter; etc. >=20 > Devops is a lovely thing, and I see the appeal, and it=92s nice = there=92s a community building all manner of software to assist in = managing large groups of servers. =20 >=20 > <rant> > But the trend of developers coming up with cute and/or clever names = for concepts, configuration items, and behaviors simply has to stop. It = serves no purpose but to be cute. One could even call it intentional = documentation obfuscation. It annoys me to no end. > </rant> One could say the same about any specialized vernacular used. Why say = "float bowl" or "pilot jet" when talking about carbeurtors as opposed to = a more descriptive term such as "the area in the carb where fuel = accumulates to supply the jets with fuel which is metered by a float = device". Well obviously because it's part of the lexicon of carburetor = work. Same has to be done for things such as devops tools, even when all they = are doing is combining commonly used things into a single thing. =20 Knee jerk reaction to being upset that a new term is being said when you = don't know what it is. It's better to control that reaction and look = towards what can be learned from it. >=20 > So what is in use for the jenkins cluster, anyone know? >=20 > And any totally FreeBSD-centric HOWTOs on either ansible or salt? >=20 > Charles >=20 >=20 >> I haven't looked at Ansible very closely, but it seems that Salt also = covers the same ground in its strong focus on orchestration. >>=20 >> I think all these systems are very good in their own right, but in = the end community support for your preferred OS is paramount. I'm = hoping that FreeBSD looking at using Salt for the Jenkins cluster might = boost FreeBSD support in the Salt community. >>=20 >> Cheers, >>=20 >> Paul. >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20 > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-stable@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-stable > To unsubscribe, send any mail to = "freebsd-stable-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20
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