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Date:      Sat, 1 Jan 2000 12:30:54 -0600
From:      Karl Denninger <karl@Denninger.Net>
To:        Steve Price <sprice@hiwaay.net>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ports/15822: Update port misc/HomeDaemon to V0.99
Message-ID:  <20000101123054.A37550@Denninger.Net>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.OSF.4.21.0001011155450.14993-100000@fly.HiWAAY.net>; from Steve Price on Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 12:19:34PM -0600
References:  <20000101113337.A89903@Denninger.Net> <Pine.OSF.4.21.0001011155450.14993-100000@fly.HiWAAY.net>

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On Sat, Jan 01, 2000 at 12:19:34PM -0600, Steve Price wrote:
> On Sat, 1 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote:
> 
> # Correct.  My first submission got a reject and nasty comment back from 
> # one of your other committers that I violated the hier(7) rules - when I 
> # explained why I had done so, I got stony silence in reply.
> 
> I can't speak for anyone but myself.  I was being courteous and you
> took to shouting at me.  So am to assume that all [CK]arls of the
> world will be this way?  I didn't take the other person's comments
> as you did.  They were constructive comments and you chose to take
> them the wrong way IMHO.

Well, I apologize for considering you and Will to be both speaking
somewhat-in-concert.

> [snip]
> 
> # So today I submitted a port with those PLIST entries DELETED (intentionally)
> # which ALSO violates the rules in the handbook, but I'll be damned if blind 
> # complience with "the rules" supersedes the principle of least astonishment 
> # (and the 4-letter words that will eminate from someone who does not have a 
> # backup after they spend all weekend programming an event list only to lose 
> # it due to this!)
> 
> If the port installs files then those files will show up in the PLIST
> otherwise the package that is created will be worthless as they won't
> be there.  My suggestion if you don't want to lose these config files
> is to install the ones you have as '.sample's with instructions that for
> this software to do anything useful you must copy and tweak to suit.
> There are quite a number of ports that do this and it works quite well
> for them.

The package is worthless without hand configuration in any event (and those
files are hand-configuration files).

I'll take a look at the strategy on the ".sample" stuff, but inhernetly
don't like it.  There's a build-define that has to be set too, which may
force me back to "NO_PACKAGE" anyway, in which case none of this really
matters.

> # Any idea on a timeline when the "now original" commit can/will be done?
> 
> Nope.  With a volunteer project and the fact that there are currently
> 2116 other open PRs (269 of which are for ports), it will happen when
> someone takes the time to do it.
> 
> Since the holidays are here for most of us it has a good chance of
> happening soon, but no promises.  I can tell you that in the last
> week we've been able to resolve a sizeable number of PRs as evidenced
> here.
> 
> 	http://www.freebsd.org/~steve/gnatstats.html
> 
> -steve

Understood.

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