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Date:      Sat, 01 Dec 2007 12:28:29 -0500
From:      "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        David Southwell <david@vizion2000.net>
Cc:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: duration of the ports freeze
Message-ID:  <475199BD.8080900@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <200712010940.32888.david@vizion2000.net>
References:  <33640.194.74.82.3.1196149681.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org>	<20071201105443.K15697@cauchy.math.missouri.edu>	<47519484.6000408@gmail.com> <200712010940.32888.david@vizion2000.net>

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>
> The balance needs shifting and a method  that does not demand a
> freeze is now IMHO essential.

I might be wrong in this but much of the freeze seems to be due to
incomplete information being maintained on the interaction of
different ports.... for example in a discussion of why xorg is so
bloated I pointed out:

1. xorg-server does a very bad job on fonts dependicies (it installs
almost no fonts)
2. many xorg-apps assume they are being installed as a part of the
metaport and do not sufficently check their own dependicies.
3. xorg and other long tool chains show some major weaknesses in the
ports system:
    a. Inconsitent overridding or lack there of the config target
(ports(8))
    b. Due to bad management of the dependancy DAG you are forced to
use meta ports
    c. Due to c there is much less orthangonality then there should be
between ports




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Aryeh M. Friedman
FloSoft Systems
Developer, not business, friendly
http://www.flosoft-systems.com
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