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Date:      Tue, 29 Dec 2009 23:31:32 +0100
From:      Roland Smith <rsmith@xs4all.nl>
To:        Kaya Saman <SamanKaya@netscape.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: New user - small file server questions and quick GUI question
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On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 09:06:09PM +0200, Kaya Saman wrote:
> lot's of different pieces of advice rolling in now!
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> I guess what I will do as I have a small hard disk for what I want to do=
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> which is to get rid of my music and few movies which are stored on my=20
> laptop currently, is create separate /, /tmp, /usr and /var.

If you can afford it, and if your laptop has a USB port, buy one of those
external harddisks. Plenty of room for music and movies... Also great for
backups!
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> I propose which is similar to what Frank has suggested:
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> /   ~500M
> /tmp ~2GB
> /var ~2GB
> /usr ~2GB
> /home the rest

I would make /usr greater. See below.

> but then Jerry has already suggested:
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>  partition   mount point     Size=20
>    a            /             512 MegaBytes  (1/2 GByte)
>    b            swap         2048 MBytes     (2 GBytes)
>    d            /tmp          512 MBytes
>    e            /usr         4096 MBytes
>    f            /var         4096 MBytes
>    g            /home          29 GB  (eg all of the rest of the disk)
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> This could be ok I reckon as the 4GB partitions should be there as=20
> everyone has suggested for me to use ports and build from source!

I'd make /usr bigger. 5-10 GiB, if you can spare it.

> The reason why I preferred to use package manager was that on say=20
> Solaris it's pretty a much a pain having to install all the dependencies=
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> from Sun Freeware site.

Realize that not all software is available as packages because of
e.g. licensing restrictions. And some ports you can customize via so-called
"options". If you install from packages, you're stuck with the (default)
options used when building the packages.

The FreeBSD ports system is _so_ convenient. It's one of the great features=
 of
FreeBSD, as is the user community.

> I mean what I will be installing if completely base install with just OS=
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> and nothing more like I mentioned before is Samba, NFS server/client,=20
> NTP, Nano as the quote below from Jerry using vi or vim is not my=20
> preferred text editor as I find them extremely difficult and a real pain=
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> to use.

The ee(1) editor is part of the base system. This is a _lot_ friendlier tha=
n vi!
Give it a try, you might not even need nano.

> In addition I do not think this machine has a DVD drive either although=
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> I haven't fired up the Win build yet to transfer files but from what the=
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> drive says on the front of 52x looks like it's CD only :-(

Good enough for installing. :-)
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> For this reason the discussed packages above will need to be downloaded=
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> and installed my best guess is from source.

Installing from source is the most flexible method. How is your internet
connection?

> Meaning I will need extra=20
> space in one of the filesystems but am unsure where the source gets=20
> stored?? My best guess would be /usr?

In /usr/ports to be exact. The source code tarballs are also stored there,
under /usr/ports/distfiles. On my system, /usr/ports/distfiles is now 799
MiB (450 ports, remember!). The rest of /usr/ports is 543 MiB. Realize that
ports will be compiled under /usr/ports as well!

Good luck!

Roland
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