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Date:      Mon, 28 Jan 2002 22:15:43 -0600
From:      "Mike Meyer" <mwm-dated-1012709743.1d5fe6@mired.org>
To:        nate@yogotech.com (Nate Williams)
Cc:        stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Firewall config non-intuitiveness
Message-ID:  <15446.8687.379406.482030@guru.mired.org>
In-Reply-To: <15445.44102.288461.155113@caddis.yogotech.com>
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Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com> types:
> > Note that "do not enable firewall" (which is implied by firewall_enable="NO") 
> > is *not* equivalent to "disable firewall".
> Maybe we're having an English language question.

I'd say you are.

> If something isn't enabled, doesn't that imply that it's disabled? Last
> I checked, enabled/disabled were binary operations.

No. Failing to enable something doesn't mean that you disable
it. Those are both actions. It's also possible that to take no action
whatsoever.

Tanya Harding disabled Nancy Kerrigan. Nobody else in the world
disabled her. By your logic, they all must therefore have enabled her,
which clearly isn't the case. Most of them did nothing. A small number
of people did the things necessary to enable her to skate again.

That said, I don't really have an objection to changing the variable
name, or making it tristated, or some such to avoid this confusion.

	<mike
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