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Date:      Fri, 29 Jan 1999 04:19:58 +0000 (GMT)
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
To:        dillon@apollo.backplane.com (Matthew Dillon)
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Any way to get machine out of hires when it breaks into DDB> ?
Message-ID:  <199901290419.VAA19374@usr07.primenet.com>
In-Reply-To: <199901262039.MAA21275@apollo.backplane.com> from "Matthew Dillon" at Jan 26, 99 12:39:47 pm

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>     I just had a crash on my workstation.  X froze up in the middle of a
>     redraw, and the machine unresponsive to pings from the outside. 
> 
>     The thing had dropped into DDB.  I really wanted to see what DDB was
>     trying to tell me so I could fix it, but I couldn't see it since it
>     was still in X.
> 
>     I knew it was in DDB because I could type 'panic' <return> <return> and
>     the machine rebooted :-)
> 
>     It sure wouuld be nice if DDB could restore the video back to VGA.  
>     Anybody have any ideas?


Yes.  GGI, which puts the driver in the kernel instead of the X server;
wonderfully suited to KLD-izing of drivers:

	http://www.ggi-project.org/

You can get the XFree86 server that uses it from:

	http://www.stacken.kth.se/~mackan/ggi/xggi/

"Heretic" has been ported to it:

	http://gametome.linuxquake.com/show?Heretic

The license policy is:

   1.X license for KGI drivers or others at the authors discretion, but
     those might need to be distributed separately, then. 
   2.KGI-to-kernel glue layers take a license as appropriate for the host OS. 
   3.LibGGI, LibGII, etc. has X-style licensing. 
   4.Other libraries: At authors' discretion, X is preferred. 
   5.Headers, makefiles, makerules, and scripts, as public domain. 
   6.Demos are under the author's discretion. The recommendation is to
     put them into the public domain. 

Mesa (OpenGL) as of 2.6 has GGI drivers.

>From the FAQ ( http://www.ggi-project.org/docs/faq.html )

   FreeBSD?

   Solaris?

   Ports for these OSes as well as Windows and DOS are under way. Please
   check the status pages for more detailed information on usability. 


					Terry Lambert
					terry@lambert.org
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