Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:37:58 -0700 From: "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> To: Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> Cc: Ollivier Robert <roberto@keltia.freenix.fr>, freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rtools were deemed almost unused 15 years ago... Message-ID: <0DA3CF9B-EC9E-4DE8-9477-5CAD07B79E38@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20170620203401.82e0207a6d16d7312cd47f8f@bidouilliste.com> References: <CAGSa5y3kVajpSSJUT9Vt0-dTwtaXMwNWvv_ELH14z68osM0UYA@mail.gmail.com> <20170620110644.lkdw2s7jnfckapnl@roberto-aw.eurocontrol.fr> <3C040459-025D-4BB2-A4AC-8D180A95322B@gmail.com> <20170620203401.82e0207a6d16d7312cd47f8f@bidouilliste.com>
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--Apple-Mail=_0FFF9BCD-3560-4244-A9DA-631FBB089F76 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:34 AM, Emmanuel Vadot <manu@bidouilliste.com> = wrote: >=20 > On Tue, 20 Jun 2017 11:28:16 -0700 > "Ngie Cooper (yaneurabeya)" <yaneurabeya@gmail.com> wrote: >=20 >>=20 >>> On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:06 AM, Ollivier Robert = <roberto@keltia.freenix.fr> wrote: >>>=20 >>> According to Jeremie Le Hen on Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25:46PM = +0200: >>>> Therefore, I hereby propose to remove rtools from the base system. = I >>>> acknowledge this will likely cause troubles for a handful of people >>>> who are still relying on it for good or bad reasons. But the = flipside >>>> is that the attack surface of millions of FreeBSD installed out = there >>>> will be reduced. >>>>=20 >>>> The proposed roadmap is: >>>> - disable from the build on head and let it soak for one month >>>> - remove rtools from the base. >>>>=20 >>>> What do you guys think? Any preferred color for the bikeshed? :) >>>=20 >>> Go for it. >>=20 >>=20 >> rsh, etc doesn?t live in ports, and there are viable uses for it = still, even though this day in age they?re greatly reduced. >> - I?ll submit a new port for those that still need it. >> - I?ll disable it in base; add a nice comment noting that it?s = available in ports. >> -> Best case scenario, we can remove rsh from base before 12.0. >> Thanks! >> -Ngie >=20 > There is maybe "viable uses" for vendors that haven't updated stuff in > their product, but not for regular users. Unfortunately this is not necessarily true, given past experience :/. = You never know who needs something until it goes away. --Apple-Mail=_0FFF9BCD-3560-4244-A9DA-631FBB089F76 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJZSWuGAAoJEPWDqSZpMIYVpPsQAJzAEByvd0XlwxnNMCH1hkaq jzCQEb5Lc+E70UsT6rp8JXcrHYdYGafqiKlDKwS0ODLFTvEKkBE100eD1FMtdlCB z90BaG4FdOdAh5wih5taTzPqApBYP3WS8x1CDU912kX/KtFZw+niQVcle4h3w1CK +o9mEfVnP+2toWDq2qEZtwDzMm2ywxj95z2qlWuQkjLurnpcPB+OMfqFX3R2CKAq Q6dg9t9kPw+iL7BgMAeU1l3HmuEDDdATR2/ZjfhOGw7XkO3nsyOTWZ1Pb8ayeByu wlSdPIVYVLr1BoKarfxSGrlW99k57yCTaqPobmEB9IIBsTpxKPcujXuHdv+LiAe7 VEVN30KvjY3Nsg+dGnfulXrgsshgNaAdDKBqqxai/1qdqTYgRHy8rNCFnsgL5u8c ZVUihWHYBGxc2eaKE16mIvqHtDPSqE3JZt+cJWDveoaoS4c1doZ25Lqz7ZoGSeta OuelQG04p5BUYlA3ZqBJCu5qaNwGpQpUqo5tX8NbFDlqT4nBC97AIPcHIqwZIChk Ks0EkwMV/NoMJtBMNKGxKky0IV9Db2+HIETqeEshKYSRK5EbnXD16bVgMxJtP1KO STLA722sslQipqpprR0xpGj/ymjFFuB+IBtePOuWIQ6IxeBJR5zvGap4B/MxDvVg ZL8cD6Q0IOMH3xAbKHci =ByIX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_0FFF9BCD-3560-4244-A9DA-631FBB089F76--
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