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Date:      Fri, 1 Apr 2011 09:16:46 +0200
From:      Torfinn Ingolfsen <tingox@gmail.com>
To:        Eitan Adler <eadler@freebsd.org>
Cc:        FreeBSD Ports <ports@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Removing Cruft from the ports tree
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Hello,

On Fri, Apr 1, 2011 at 5:55 AM, Eitan Adler <eadler@freebsd.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> =A0 =A0I=92m been working recently on a series of PRs that called =93Reap=
er
> of the Dead=94 PRs. I have been going through the various build files we
> have (for source, docs, and especially ports) and attempting to remove
> dead code, old cruft, and unneeded checks. Some examples include
> ports/155543, ports/155511, ports/154395, conf/155737, and
> conf/155738. My goal has been twofold: making it easier to understand
> what is going on, and speeding up the process without requiring
> significant change.
>
> =A0 =A0One of the features that has given us the most trouble has been
> the options framework for ports. We automatically test ports using the
> default options, but we are unable to perform automated using every
> combination of options. A port with just four options has sixteen
> possible configurations, and some ports have more than that. Even
> supporting one option might double the number of things to test.
>
> =A0 =A0However some ports rely on specific configurations of options of
> other ports. In order to deal with this mess we have come up with a
> hack: slave ports. We have entire ports that are designed just to
> change the default options for other ports. This requires a
> non-trivial amount of code on the bsd.*.mk files to support.
>
> =A0 =A0Automated configuration is not the only thing that has caused us
> trouble in the past. We routinely have to do deal with questions from
> inexperienced users on questions@ and ports@ details problems with
> non-standard configurations. Many times the solution to a ports
> related problem is flipping a bit in the options file.
>
> =A0 =A0I propose removing the options systems entirely. While it does
> serve a small purpose of allowing customization for some end users, I
> believe the flaws outweigh the benefits. Removing the options
> framework would enable us to remove over 500 lines of expensive code
> from the ports system. Not only that but because maintainers would be
> able to choose the best possible configuration for the their port
> users would no longer have to mess around.
>
> =A0 =A0While I understand there might some minor part of the community
> that has a sentimental attachment to the blue-on-gray-on-blue
> configuration, and still others want to prematurely optimize, a simple
> workaround could be implemented. We can allow users to add their own
> ./configure arguments to the makefile. This serves the needs of the
> community while allowing us to deal with a simpler and more reliable
> ports system.
>
> =A0 =A0Feel free to express your thoughts here. I would like to get this
> hashed out now so the process could occur on a later date(1).

Nice. :-)
Would it be to early to propose that this is just another April Fools joke?

HAND
--=20
Regards,
Torfinn Ingolfsen



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