Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2003 14:31:35 -0400 (EDT) From: John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> To: Chris Pressey <cpressey@catseye.mine.nu> Cc: freebsd-qa@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Mail selection options in sysinstall(8). Message-ID: <XFMail.20030919143135.jhb@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: <20030919111438.5025ea0c.cpressey@catseye.mine.nu>
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On 19-Sep-2003 Chris Pressey wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 18:53:49 +0100 > Ceri Davies <setantae@submonkey.net> wrote: > >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2003 at 10:51:44AM -0700, Chris Pressey wrote: >> > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 07:48:02 -0700 >> > Michael Sierchio <kudzu@tenebras.com> wrote: >> > >> > > Simon L. Nielsen wrote: >> > > >> > > > As mentioned by Tom's original mail that isn't possible due to >> > > > the qmail license. You can go bug djb about it :-) (though I >> > > > doubt it will change anything). >> > > > >> > > > Note, the license is the reason why qmail isn't included, it's >> > > > not a crusade against qmail - I also use qmail myself some >> > > > places. >> > > >> > > Note: in my view the problem is that the current port maintainer >> > > has decided to produce an install that is not conformant with >> > > Dan's license granting an exception to the requirement for his >> > > approval. It is entirely possible to make a binary package that >> > > either: meets with his approval, or; fulfills the requirements >> > > for the exemption. >> > >> > I quite agree. Quoting http://cr.yp.to/qmail/dist.html : >> > >> > "You are permitted to distribute a precompiled var-qmail package if >> > (1) installing the package produces exactly the same /var/qmail >> > hierarchy as a user would obtain by downloading, compiling, and >> > installing qmail-1.03.tar.gz, fastforward-0.51.tar.gz, and >> > dot-forward-0.71.tar.gz;(2) the package behaves correctly, i.e., the >> > same way as normal qmail+fastforward+dot-forward installations on >> > all other systems; and(3) the package's creator warrants that he has >> > made a good-faith attempt to ensure that the package behaves >> > correctly." >> > >> > Frankly I'd be surprised if a package built straight from the qmail >> > port didn't meet these requirements. >> >> If I installed a package that put itself in /var simply because the >> guy who wrote it says that's where it should be (on my system!), then >> I wouldn't be best pleased. Enough said. > > But that's not an argument for denying it to other users, who quite > possibly agree that it should go into /var, or who simply don't care > overmuch where it goes. Most FreeBSD packages do allow you to use an arbitray prefix. See pkg_add(8) for more info. The debate seems to be that djb@ doesn't want any precompiled packages to have that flexibility for whatever reason. If djb@ doesn't want qmail to be widely deployed then thats his problem I guess. :) -- John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org> <>< http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/
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