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Date:      Wed, 12 Mar 2008 16:46:20 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Daniel Eischen <deischen@freebsd.org>
To:        Remko Lodder <remko@elvandar.org>
Cc:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>, FreeBSD Current <current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: KSE
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.4.64.0803121644020.28886@sea.ntplx.net>
In-Reply-To: <50356.195.64.94.120.1205351385.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org>
References:  <47D82E6F.6010302@elischer.org> <50356.195.64.94.120.1205351385.squirrel@galain.elvandar.org>

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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Remko Lodder wrote:

>
> On Wed, March 12, 2008 8:26 pm, Julian Elischer wrote:
>>
>> -----
>> Dan Eischen.  Despite having a "real life" He did the imppossible
>> and made the M:N library more reliable than the simpler 1:1 library
>> for many years.
>> I'm hoping that Dan doesn't take this as his queue to leave
>> the project.  I really do know how disheartening is is
>> to have some part of your life taken out of production.
>> I hope EVERYONE here takes the time to consider what a great
>> job Dan has done, looking after not only libc_r but libkse,
>> and taking the project from basically no threads to fully threaded.
>> -----
>> Jeffr and David Xu (and David Mini in the beginning):
>> Took on the task of making the 1:1 library competitive.
>> AND KEPT IT COMPATIBLE.
>> -----
>> All the developers who allowed us to try.
>>
>> -----
>>
>> I think at this moment I will shed a tear for a grand idea,
>> but look forward to the fact that we can concentrate on getting
>> every last cycle of every processor, and I am pretty sure
>> that despite what would appear to have been "wasted time" to some,
>> It was not and we have learned a hell of a lot. FreeBSD has
>> not been held up by this as we had the forethought to plan
>> ahead. The changed landscape has meant that though I think
>> there were some cases where M:N was needed, these cases are getting
>> fewer and fewer and FreeBSD is better served by going the 1:1 path
>> and concentrating on our strengths.
>>
>> The next challenges are going to be massive.
>> We need to cope with systems with 256 processors
>> with non uniform memory ranges.
>> with non uniform inter process interconnects.
>> and maybe even with non uniform processors.
>>
>> Lets get cracking! and I Dan, I hope you feel that you will be
>> welcome, and appreciated by FreeBSD in general as we head off down the
>> track..
>>
>> Julian
>>
>
> Well, I for one :-) would like to thank you, David and Daniel for the
> tremendous work all that period of time, a lot of people learned from it,
> build upon it and so on.

Any rumors of my/our (& David) demise are greatly exagerrated ;-)

-- 
DE



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