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Date:      Mon, 9 Mar 1998 01:25:48 -0600 (CST)
From:      igor@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu (Igor Roshchin)
To:        mike@smith.net.au (Mike Smith)
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: *HEADS UP* Important change warning. (long version)
Message-ID:  <199803090725.BAA05040@alecto.physics.uiuc.edu>
In-Reply-To: <199803090723.XAA13717@dingo.cdrom.com> from "Mike Smith" at Mar 8, 98 11:23:49 pm

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Thanks, Mike,

I didn't mean to be mean or offensive.
My appologies, if it sounded that way.

IgoR

> 
> > > 
> > > Don't know why some people get so emotional about the name of a device.
> > > If FreeBSD is to move forward we all must accept that change is
> > > inevitable. Mike also did a good job of warning us before hand.
> > 
> > 3 hours advance notice ? or I just missed something ? ;)
> 
> The point behind the announcement was that, if you're serious, you read 
> -stable *before* you rebuild.  The updates and the messages were timed 
> to avoid any gaps, but I don't have the luxury of a few months to let 
> one change propagate before building on it.  8(
> 
> > Sitting in front of all your computers you might be forgetting that
> > There are plenty (or at least - quite a few) of people who are doing 
> > such upgrades remotely...
> 
> If you are doing remote upgrades without a fallback plan, and without 
> local testing, then you are already accepting a plethora of risks.  We 
> can't stop you from shooting you feet off, much as we'd like to.
> 
> > I am a bit confused: what would be the behavior of an updated system 
> > with the disk which was divided as follows:
> > 
> > Filesystem  1K-blocks     Used    Avail Capacity  Mounted on
> > /dev/wd0a       31775    24103     5130    82%    /
> > /dev/wd0s1g   1004015   558208   365486    60%    /home
> > /dev/wd0s2e     63567       19    58463     0%    /tmp
> > /dev/wd0s1e    500463   290300   170126    63%    /usr
> > /dev/wd0s2f   2980238   645811  2096008    24%    /usr2
> > /dev/wd0s2g   2878330  2485211   162853    94%    /usr3
> > /dev/wd0s1f     98479     2869    87732     3%    /var
> > /dev/wd0s1h     98802    23382    67516    26%    /var/log
> 
> This will result in a diagnostic from mount at boot time, telling you 
> that you should be mounting /dev/wd0s1a on /.  If you have updated 
> mount as per messages to this list, you'll still work just fine.
> 
> > Also,
> > If a have an "inherited" computer -
> > how can I tell whether it has an old or a new type of slices without going 
> > into /stand/sysinstall .... ?
> 
> Install the new kernel and new mount.  It will tell you if things need 
> to be changed.
> 
> -- 
> \\  Sometimes you're ahead,       \\  Mike Smith
> \\  sometimes you're behind.      \\  mike@smith.net.au
> \\  The race is long, and in the  \\  msmith@freebsd.org
> \\  end it's only with yourself.  \\  msmith@cdrom.com
> 
> 
> 


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