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Date:      Wed, 23 Oct 2013 13:35:10 -0400
From:      Eitan Adler <lists@eitanadler.com>
To:        Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org>
Cc:        "Julian H. Stacey" <jhs@berklix.com>, "Andrey V. Elsukov" <bu7cher@yandex.ru>, "freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org" <freebsd-wireless@freebsd.org>, freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: [rfc] removing the NDISulator
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On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:29 PM, Adrian Chadd <adrian@freebsd.org> wrote:
> If there are drivers that people absolutely need fixed then they should
> stand up and say "hey, I really would like X to work better!" and then
> follow it up with some encouraging incentives. Right now the NDISulator
> lets people work _around_ this by having something that kind of works for
> them but it doesn't improve our general driver / stack ecosystems.

I doubt most people prefer to use the ndisulator over a native driver.
However, many people don't have the skills, time, or money to provide
the incentives you are talking about.  At this point ndisulator
provides a means to an end: working wireless and it isn't causing
significant strain on the project in terms of development effort.

Our end users are not always developers and I think removing this
feature will hurt more than it will help.


-- 
Eitan Adler



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