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Date:      Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:51:45 -0500 
From:      Noah Dunker <ndunker@jccc.net>
To:        "'gerti-freebsdq@bitart.com'" <gerti-freebsdq@bitart.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   RE: Beware of WindRiver Systems!
Message-ID:  <C18E28011272D41180AD00B0D0496C0801C021F8@ns-exch05>

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Sorry to hear about your misfortune.  Now I'm REALLY glad I waited to buy 
4.3 in person from DefCon 9.  

Nothing safer than a 
'cat /dev/wallet | grep $price > real-person; mv 4.3-RELEASE Laptop-Case'
transaction.  :)

I really hope they resolve everyone's problems.  You're probably getting 
the cold shoulder from them because there are many others like you with
similar problems.

Noah Dunker
Systems Analyst/Technician
Johnson County Community College 

-----Original Message-----
From: Gerd Knops [mailto:gerti@bitart.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 2:25 PM
To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG; freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject: Beware of WindRiver Systems!


Hi Everyone,

Contrary to Jordan's comments it seems the WindRiver screw ups  
continue. A few weeks ago I received EMail telling me my credit card  
was invalid, and they could not ship my subscription. So I go to the  
indicated web page and update the credit card info (Visa had issued a  
new card as a precaution after a database of an E-Business was  
hijacked). A few days later I get the same EMail again, and I go  
through that procedure once more.

Another few days go by, and the same EMail again. This time I call  
them. An obviously annoyed lady tells me she can't really do anything  
about it, doesn't care that the web page doesn't work, and says I  
should send EMail. Which I did, explaining the whole thing (no  
response).

A few days later the 4.3 CDs finally arrive, weeks later than they  
should have.

Yet a few days later I receive snail mail complaining my credit card  
info is invalid. Since I already invested half an hour to try and fix  
up their problems, I ignore it. A few days later my credit card invoice  
arrives, and I got charged TWICE by WindRiver. Needless to say, phone  
calls go the way of /dev/null.

I'd strongly recommend that anyone thinks twice before doing business  
with WindRiver Systems. A search through he archives will show I am not  
the only one who has troubles with them.

Regards

Gerd Knops

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