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Date:      Sun, 09 Dec 2007 20:42:34 +0100
From:      Rene Ladan <r.c.ladan@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: CURRENT Kernel makes the system run very very hot
Message-ID:  <475C452A.4060502@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <200712082118.30268.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com>
References:  <200712081728.18710.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com>	<475AD8DE.4080302@conducive.net> <200712082118.30268.Thomas.Sparrevohn@btinternet.com>

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Thomas Sparrevohn schreef:
> On Saturday 08 December 2007 17:48:14 韓家標 Bill Hacker wrote:
>> Thomas Sparrevohn wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> There something weird going on - at minimal workloads my system gets very
>>> very hot - The system is watercooled, 4 Fan's etc its a quad core QX6700 -
>>> make buildkernel - will make the fans run at highest speed (its impossibly to
>>> be in the room at the same time).
>>>
>>> There are no problems when running other OS'es - Are anybody else having this
>>> kind of problems  (PS its a relatively new thing - maybe 2 weeks)? 

>> And 'top -S' reports what?
>>
> 
> I was trying to avoid to go back to running "pure UFS" again - but I guess I have to inorder
> to eliminate ZFS as the potential source
>
On my Asus A6JE running todays HEAD, top -S -H -d 1 shows:

last pid: 21503;  load averages:  0.16,  0.12,  0.09    up 0+03:05:21  20:33:00
136 processes: 4 running, 113 sleeping, 19 waiting
CPU states:     % user,     % nice,     % system,     % interrupt,     % idle
Mem: 217M Active, 253M Inact, 120M Wired, 19M Cache, 112M Buf, 1392M Free
Swap: 4062M Total, 4062M Free

  PID USERNAME   PRI NICE   SIZE    RES STATE  C   TIME   WCPU COMMAND
   10 root       171 ki31     0K    16K RUN    0 350:57 92.43% {idle: cpu0}
   10 root       171 ki31     0K    16K RUN    1 350:57 86.52% {idle: cpu1}
  889 rene        96    0   300M 42308K select 0   4:14  7.47% Xorg
  975 rene        96    0   147M 92808K select 0   1:50  4.64% {initial thread}
  928 rene        96    0 43704K 10208K select 1   1:13  0.05% xfce4-clipman-pl
  950 rene        96    0 53760K 19772K select 0   0:09  0.05% Terminal
  975 rene        97    0   147M 92808K ucond  1   1:50  0.00% {thunderbird-bin
  975 rene        96    0   147M 92808K select 0   1:50  0.00% {thunderbird-bin
  975 rene        96    0   147M 92808K ucond  0   1:50  0.00% {thunderbird-bin
  975 rene        96    0   147M 92808K select 1   1:50  0.00% {thunderbird-bin
  975 rene        96    0   147M 92808K select 0   1:50  0.00% {thunderbird-bin
  975 rene        96    0   147M 92808K ucond  0   1:50  0.00% {thunderbird-bin
  975 rene        96    0   147M 92808K ucond  0   1:50  0.00% {thunderbird-bin
  975 rene        96    0   147M 92808K ucond  0   1:50  0.00% {thunderbird-bin
  975 rene        96    0   147M 92808K ucond  0   1:50  0.00% {thunderbird-bin
  930 rene        96    0 27408K 11076K select 0   1:24  0.00% xfce4-systemload
root@ip4da3ae31:~#

This is with UFS.  sysctl hw.acpi.thermal shows:
hw.acpi.thermal.min_runtime: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.polling_rate: 10
hw.acpi.thermal.user_override: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature: 70.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.active: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.passive_cooling: 1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.thermal_flags: 0
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._PSV: 95.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._HOT: -1
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._CRT: 105.0C
hw.acpi.thermal.tz0._ACx: 60.0C -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1 -1

The laptop is running idle, just running xfce4, some applets, and some desktop
applications (thunderbird, firefox, pidgin).  If I run boinc (einstein/seti/simap)
from the ports on a few days old kernel, the temperature rises to 87C-92C, against
67C-72C when idle.  At some point the cpus get too hot I guess, judging from a
frozen console (the video card is still pushing out the screen image) and a hung
ssh connection.  Then only power cycling helps.

kernel config and loader.conf are attached.

Regards,
Rene

> 
>> FWIW - the opposite experience here.
>> Core-2 Quad QX6600 on Asus and Gigabyte, Core-D dual on Tyan.
>>
>> Stock Intel cooler & fans, case fans on variable-speed MB connectors, PSU's with 
>> 'smart' fans.
>>
>> Fans run at nowhere near full-speed even with a long make -j 12.
>>
>> Under 'average load', not yet as quiet as my PowerBook G4, but getting close to 
>> our C3 MB with constant-speed fans.
>>
>> Something in the cooling water?  Bacteria? Goldfish turds?
>>
>> Bill
>>
>>
> 
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