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Date:      Thu, 29 Dec 2011 20:21:11 +0000
From:      Chris Rees <crees@freebsd.org>
To:        pfg@freebsd.org
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Removal of sysinstall from HEAD and lack of a post-install configuration tool
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On 29 December 2011 18:23, Pedro Giffuni <pfg@freebsd.org> wrote:
> --- Gio 29/12/11, Nathan Whitehorn <nwhitehorn@freebsd.org> ha scritto:

>> I'd appreciate any specific comments you might have, and
>> especially
>> specific suggestions for improvements. Except from people
>> who are old
>> hands at sysinstall, I've received almost universally
>> positive comments
>> on the user experience. Patches would be even more
>> appreciated, since
>> real life has intervened to steal most of my FreeBSD time.
>> -Nathan
>>
>
> FWIW;
>
> I have practically given up on installing FreeBSD lately
> and I mostly use PC-BSD. I mainly see two big issues:
>
> -X.Org has become very difficult to install. Setting up
> hald and friends, not to mention that you have to choose
> carefully your hardware previously. It's a nightmare.

I've not found that... installing xorg-drivers with the correct
options is hassle-free... have you posted these problems to -x11@?

> - I am OK with sysinstall disappearing: however it was
> nice to have all the setup tools in one place. How am
> I supposed to install prebuilt packages (and the myriad
> of dependencies) from now on? Ports are cool but having
> to wait to rebuild gcc to be able to use scilab is a
> nonsense.

Use packages, we do do them!

Chris

> PC-BSD is not without problems though. In my system
> it wants to use "latam" kbd which doesn't even
> exist AFAICT.
>
> Just my $0.02, I know writing a replacement for the
> full blown sysinstall is a rather heroic thing to do.
>
> Regards,
>
> Pedro.



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