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Date:      Tue, 15 Jul 2008 17:48:36 +1000
From:      Norberto Meijome <freebsd@meijome.net>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: OT-ish: fedora->crash->single user fsck; FreeBSD->crash->smooth recovery
Message-ID:  <20080715174836.60d5802e@ayiin>
In-Reply-To: <20080715072456.T1638@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>
References:  <539c60b90807142030u506394e7jdcdedd965ec16706@mail.gmail.com> <20080715072456.T1638@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl>

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On Tue, 15 Jul 2008 07:36:17 +0200 (CEST)
Wojciech Puchar <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:

> > Is ext2/3 really that bad?
> >  
> i don't know ext3, it in theory does journalling, are you using ext3 or 
> ext2?
> 
> hint: ext3 is actually ext2 with extra file created, there is no need to 
> convert, just run fsck_ext3 to convert to ext3, and delete that file to 
> convert to ext2.

( my apologies for pursuing the OT....)

I can't speak for Fedora, i haven't bothered using it. I can tell you , though,
that ext3's journal is prey to memory hungry processes (like VMWare server) -
user level app uses lots of memory, the fs doesn't have enough to cache/journal
and you hit the ground very fast and very hard. There are some sysctl you can
use to postpone this (at the expense of usable memory). 

Other than that, i can't say ext3 is that bad.

But yeah, I still haven't found enough reasons to move back to Linux from FBSD.
B

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