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Date:      Mon, 19 Apr 1999 08:37:33 +0100
From:      Mark Ovens <marko@uk.radan.com>
To:        Shawn Leas <sleas@ixion.honeywell.com>
Cc:        Andrew Johns <A_Johns@TurnAround.com.au>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Jonathan Chen <jonc@pinnacle.co.nz>
Subject:   Re: chown/chmod doesn't work on FAT slices
Message-ID:  <371ADD3D.227AAC63@uk.radan.com>
References:  <19990419002810.D965@marder-1> <371A6E34.44F54CE@TurnAround.com.au> <19990418184526.A6297@ixion.honeywell.com>

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Shawn Leas wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Apr 19, 1999 at 09:43:48AM +1000, Andrew Johns wrote:
> > The dumb M$ world doesn't support ownership of files, hence
> > there are no permissions to change.  The partition is mounted
> > and owned by root to prevent *other* users from trashing your
> > M$ partition.
> >
> > ie: You have to be root to access M$ partitions if you want to
> > change/create files on them.
> 
> No you don't. Just chown/chmod the mountpoint, and permissions are
> inhereted.
> 

Jonathan Chen added:
> 
> To the best of my knowledge, this has *always* been the case, since
> FAT file-systems have no support for multi-users. NTFS does - maybe you're
> confusing the two?

Doh! yes. The owner/perms of the mountpoint. I've just added a new HD
and done a new install of FreeBSD. Previously I've just upgraded. I
bet if I look at the backup tape of the old system I'll find I changed
the owner and/or perms of the mountpoint and I would have done that so
long ago that I've forgotten (the memory fades with age).

I did read the manpage, but it's a little ambiguous. It says the
*default* owner/group/perms are set to those of the mountpoint
directory, it doesn't mention that you can't change them (I know that
FAT can't store this info, I was under the impression that were stored
elsewhere, (memory?), sort of virtual owner/perms).

Anyway, thanks for the help.

> -- Shawn
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