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Date:      Sun, 22 Aug 1999 20:42:46 -0700
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
To:        Darren Reed <avalon@coombs.anu.edu.au>
Cc:        petrilli@amber.org (Christopher Petrilli), freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: VPN for FreeBSD 2.2.8 and 3.2 
Message-ID:  <4726.935379766@localhost>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 23 Aug 1999 13:36:16 %2B1000." <199908230336.NAA21519@cheops.anu.edu.au> 

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> Bah, so FreeBSD will be InSecureBSD ?  Well, so long as the ITAR bear
> stands around making grizzly noises at people, it seems.

I wouldn't count on that.  As far as I can tell, what's holding KAME
integration up is the fact that they're not done merging with INRIA
yet.  Once that happens, I'm more than happy to continue to lean on
Justice Maryln Patel's decision on crypto as free speach in the S.F.
Bay Area region.  We've already talked to our lawyer, he said it
looked legit to him, and so we've been shipping crypto on our CDs for
over a year now.  I even announced it back then, to almost no audience
reaction whatsoever.  It seems that people like to get more excited
about the prospect of something being closed than it being opened
up. :)

> FreeBSD appears to be doing better than the other two groups in terms
> of resources...there are ways around it although I'm disappointed to
> see that FreeBSD isn't interested.

FreeBSD is certainly interested.  Don't believe everything you hear from
the user community.

- Jordan


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