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Date:      Wed, 8 Jan 1997 14:24:54 +1030 (CST)
From:      Michael Smith <msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
To:        kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de
Cc:        msmith@atrad.adelaide.edu.au, kuku@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de, chat@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Lignux - RMS article (pointer fyi)
Message-ID:  <199701080354.OAA13306@genesis.atrad.adelaide.edu.au>
In-Reply-To: <199701070931.KAA05415@gilberto.physik.rwth-aachen.de> from Christoph Kukulies at "Jan 7, 97 10:31:17 am"

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Christoph Kukulies stands accused of saying:
> 
> I got the pointer from Linux Journal from a colleague.
> I'm tempted to write them a reply to this because they
> also discredit the BSD camp as 'being busy infighting'...

A reply would be a good idea, but be careful with it.

>   Regarding the article titled 'The Politics of Freedom' in the Oct. 96
>   issue of LJ I would like to mention that the BSD 'crowd' as you put it
>   isn't infighting at all. This so called 'BSD crowd' is writing code as
>   well and are improving their product in a much more uniform way than the
>   different Linux vendors do.

... mention that the so-called 'BSD crowd' ...  This 'crowd' is writing ...
their product in a far more uniform fashion ...

>   Linux has been participating to a great extent from that fact in the past.

... has benefitted to a great ...

>   (only to mention the BSD based IP networking in Linux).

Wrong.  Don't mention that.

>   As a member of the FreeBSD mailing lists I can tell you that
>   Linus Thorvalds himself is a member of these mailing lists and speaks up
>   there from time to time.

He's not; he just gets cc'd by most Linux weenies when they get out of
their depth.  Don't mention that either. 8)

>   And as a side note, it would have fit you better - rather than
>   miscrediting the 'BSD crowd' - if you had lost a word on
>   the BSD Copyright which is a lot more free than the GPL
>   (virus, as it is also called sometimes). While the GPL
>   enforces everyone to supply source when distributing his
>   software with GNU software - Sometimes I doubt if this diction
>   is obeyed in every case with all Linux distributions that
>   come from all these different vendors - the BSD Copyright 
>   isn't that restrictive at all. It proliferates commercial use
>   much more than the GPL does.

... rather than discrediting ... if you had spared a word ...
which is arguably freer than ... (General Public Virus, ...) ...
GPL requires everyone ... distributing their ... if this dictate ...
It encourages commercial use ...

>   Why not broadening the scope of your Journal to other
>   free Unices rather than taking this hostile position against
>   anything which is not Linux like one could get the impression
>   from said article?

"Perhaps you could consider broadening the scope of your worthy
Journal to other free Unix-like operating systems, rather than
taking such a hostile stance against anything that is not clearly
Linux, as in the abovementioned article and others in that issue."

> I will post a copy of that article later if anyone is interested in
> cross reading/augmenting my reply to the magazine.

Hopefully the above proof isn't too harsh 8)

> --Chris Christoph P. U. Kukulies kuku@gil.physik.rwth-aachen.de

btw. hope you got your Apollo going; still trying to find OS media for
mine 8(

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