Date: Mon, 17 May 2004 18:17:57 -0700 From: Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org> To: Gary Kline <kline@thought.org> Cc: Robert Storey <y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> Subject: Re: New work on installer? - Checked by AntiVir DEMO version - Message-ID: <20040518011757.GA47709@xor.obsecurity.org> In-Reply-To: <20040518010309.GA50924@tao.thought.org> References: <006801c43bd4$49362fd0$6501a8c0@yourw92p4bhlzg> <20040518063855.62e20610.y2kbug@ms25.hinet.net> <20040518010309.GA50924@tao.thought.org>
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--CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, May 17, 2004 at 06:03:09PM -0700, Gary Kline wrote: > On Tue, May 18, 2004 at 06:38:55AM +0800, Robert Storey wrote: > > On Mon, 17 May 2004 01:00:37 -0500 > > <timh@tjhawkins.com> wrote: > >=20 > > > Has there been any new work on the installer or planned? If not, I wo= uld like > > > to help... What about graphical? > >=20 > > If you're looking to improve FreeBSD's user-friendliness, more usefual = than a > > GUI installer would be a few network setup tools. To get some idea what= I'm > > talking about, take a look at Slackware's "netconfig" and "adsl-setup" = tools. > > These aren't GUI, just ncurses scripts, but very easy to use. When I wa= s a FBSD > > newbie, one of my most frustrating experiences was having to manually w= rite and > > modify /etc/ppp/options and /etc/ppp/ppp.conf. I think a lot of newbies= get to > > this point, spend a few frustrating days tearing their hair out, and th= en give > > up and go back to Redhat or SUSE. >=20 >=20 > I think we (theBSD's) are losing a lot of serious brain > brainpower (and certainly lots of latent high-end talent) > by not having a less-headbanging install. I've done it > literally dozens of times; I still get flummoxed now and > then. =20 >=20 > What I would do for GUI/curses build/install would have > a liberal (much space/slice) as the Default. Then have=20 > a lynx or links reader point the new users to a few choice > pages if case they want to fine-tune. >=20 > How much hacking would it take to have our current=20 > /stand/sysinstall have a web front end? A lot, probably. If you people really want a new installer for FreeBSD this badly, put your money where your mouth is and set up a fund to pay one or more developers to work full-time on creating one. Kris --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFAqWRFWry0BWjoQKURAiCsAJ9qdapEWNQ10g15HYKREc1tzATPLgCgpJJm Vljs55lQQt3TfhbXXQXY3BY= =9uZz -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --CE+1k2dSO48ffgeK--
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