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Date:      Tue, 11 Dec 2001 19:57:09 -0000
From:      Paul Richards <paul@freebsd-services.com>
To:        John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        Mike Barcroft <mike@FreeBSD.ORG>, Mike Silbersack <silby@silby.com>, Alfred Perlstein <bright@mu.org>, mini@haikugeek.com, cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.ORG, Wilko Bulte <wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/boot/i386/loader version src/share/examp
Message-ID:  <889160000.1008100629@lobster.originative.co.uk>
In-Reply-To: <XFMail.011211114411.jhb@FreeBSD.org>
References:   <XFMail.011211114411.jhb@FreeBSD.org>

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--On Tuesday, December 11, 2001 11:44:11 -0800 John Baldwin
<jhb@FreeBSD.org> wrote:

> 
> I think that the loader is not intended for secure sites, there are too
> many things you would have to do to plug holes, so IMO, just bypassing it
> is your best bet.  You dont' want to have to enter the root password to
> boot the machine every time I wouldn't think.

That wasn't what I was thinking.

You've have to enter the root password to make any changes, the loader
would happily boot straight through without the password otherwise. It'd
behave just like a secure console.

If I was trying to prevent people booting the machine in the first place
I'd use a BIOS passwd but the loader provides an opportunity for someone to
grab root just by power cycling the box and that seems like a hole that
needs to be plugged.

Paul Richards
FreeBSD Services Ltd
http://www.freebsd-services.com

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