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Date:      Sat, 8 Jun 1996 14:11:14 -0700
From:      "M.R.Murphy" <mrm@Mole.ORG>
To:        terry@lambert.org
Cc:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: The -stable problem: my view
Message-ID:  <199606082111.OAA19115@meerkat.mole.org>

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> Inre: function of -stable
>
> 1)	we acknowled the function of -stable to be as an intermediate
> 	tree, between -release and -current

Maybe. Maybe not. Depends upon 4, below.


> 2)	we posit that the relationship -stable bears to -release vs.
> 	that it bears to -current is generally acknowledged to be
> 	indeterminate at this time, with cause cited as there being
> 	a dichotomy in administrative policy applied to -stable that
> 	has not been resolved

Yep.

> 3)	we posit that the relationship goals for -current and -release
> 	are conflicting, and that this is the source of the policy
> 	dichotomy

What?

> 4)	we conclude that the function of -stable needs to be defined,
> 	since it is meeting neiter relationship criteria to the
> 	general satisfaction of the parties involved

Empahtic YEP.

> 5)	we note that one potential resoloution would be to eliminate
> 	the implied -stable/-current relationship entirely  (as has
> 	been proposed by others) in favor of causing -current itself
> 	to fulfill that role by meeting the -stable buildability
> 	criteria, assuming the previously referenced problems are
> 	resolved first
>

I suggest that it's not only the buildability of stable, but the
crashlessness and bugfixedness of stable that's important. There
is a real place for a bugfixed incarnation of the previous release.
Curent may build fine, but if it crashes or bumps, it doesn't make
it as a stable system. As it should be.

This is not just a FreeBSD problem.  I haven't seen a single commercial
vendor that manages to provide a solution to this problem that is worth
a hill of warm horse manure.

--
Mike Murphy  mrm@Mole.ORG  +1 619 598 5874
Better is the enemy of Good



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