Date: Tue, 3 Oct 2017 22:06:39 +0200 From: Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: rtools were deemed almost unused 15 years ago... Message-ID: <CAGSa5y2igMZF_=crLHcYmo3M%2BUdK0CH1LRxSviUfvJLvwMM1FQ@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAGSa5y02X=Ni5HeGD=LiV8L-=Denf6ybNus7C0q3nJ9t4sVwWw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAGSa5y3kVajpSSJUT9Vt0-dTwtaXMwNWvv_ELH14z68osM0UYA@mail.gmail.com> <CAGSa5y1=1zN0ywKQ--HTi%2BDY18M5o%2BGR0fv6CyaaF9WX-z9BZg@mail.gmail.com> <CAGSa5y02X=Ni5HeGD=LiV8L-=Denf6ybNus7C0q3nJ9t4sVwWw@mail.gmail.com>
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I've slacked a bit but here we are: https://reviews.freebsd.org/D12573 On Sat, Jul 1, 2017 at 12:08 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 10:29 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> wrote: >> So the first step was to create a port with FreeBSD rcmds, here we >> are! But I need some eyes to vet it: >> https://reviews.freebsd.org/D11345 > > The port has been submitted and RCMDS are disabled by default from the > base system. > > See you in a month for the removal! > > -- Jeremie > >> >> Thanks. >> -- Jeremie >> >> On Tue, Jun 20, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Jeremie Le Hen <jlh@freebsd.org> wrote: >>> Hey folks, >>> >>> I remember when I was still barely out of my teenagehood, people were >>> mostly using ssh/scp while rtools (rsh, rlogin, ... for the >>> youngsters) were left in place as a courtesy for legacy production >>> systems still relying it on them. >>> >>> Fast forward to 2017 (so yes, 15 years later), stack-clash [1] sorely >>> reminds us that suid binaries are an attack surface. I don't even need >>> to mention that it's a healthy engineering practice to remove unused >>> code, both from a maintenance and security perspective. >>> >>> Therefore, I hereby propose to remove rtools from the base system. I >>> acknowledge this will likely cause troubles for a handful of people >>> who are still relying on it for good or bad reasons. But the flipside >>> is that the attack surface of millions of FreeBSD installed out there >>> will be reduced. >>> >>> The proposed roadmap is: >>> - disable from the build on head and let it soak for one month >>> - remove rtools from the base. >>> >>> What do you guys think? Any preferred color for the bikeshed? :) >>> >>> >>> >>> [1] https://www.qualys.com/2017/06/19/stack-clash/stack-clash.txt >>> -- >>> Jeremie Le Hen >>> jlh@FreeBSD.org >> >> >> >> -- >> Jeremie Le Hen >> jlh@FreeBSD.org > > > > -- > Jeremie Le Hen > jlh@FreeBSD.org -- Jeremie Le Hen jlh@FreeBSD.org
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