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Date:      Thu, 15 May 2003 10:00:30 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-bugs@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: misc/52122: make release does not use proper binar
Message-ID:  <200305151700.h4FH0Uw0094880@freefall.freebsd.org>

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The following reply was made to PR misc/52122; it has been noted by GNATS.

From: Ruslan Ermilov <ru@freebsd.org>
To: John Hay <jhay@icomtek.csir.co.za>
Cc: obrien@freebsd.org, bug-followup@freebsd.org
Subject: Re: misc/52122: make release does not use proper binar
Date: Thu, 15 May 2003 19:52:29 +0300

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 On Thu, May 15, 2003 at 06:31:42PM +0200, John Hay wrote:
 > >=20
 > >  I'm adding this from John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>
 > >  Message-ID: <XFMail.20030514102336.jhb@FreeBSD.org> as its useful:
 > > =20
 > >  	A better solution would be to do what I have said before but
 > >  	you and others whined that you didn't want:  We should _still_
 > >  	do a full make world in the chroot _like_ we used to and then
 > >  	do a further make buildworld for the cross-build case.  ru@
 > >  	didn't like that and tried to change everything to use
 > >  	cross-built tools or some such garbage.  Since ru@ is the one
 > >  	who broke this in revision 1.672 we should at least ask him
 > >  	for input on how to fix this.  Ruslan, the problem is that we
 > >  	need up to date tools in the release chroot.
 >=20
 > Why not just update the source and do a buildworld in the native
 > environment? You can either do it before every release snapshot
 > or like me, when it seems necesary. This way I save a few cycles.
 >=20
 > One reason why it isn't that useful inside the chroot area, is that
 > if your running kernel and the newly built bits gets too much out of
 > sync you will need to update the machine in any case, so you will
 > end up with "new" binaries and a kernel on the machine and so it
 > is a "waste" to recompile world inside the chroot area.
 >=20
 > Just my 2 bits. (I'm not on RE, but have two machines building a
 > -stable and -current snap every night.)
 >=20
 I was hoping that you will pop up, John.  This just seconds my
 words about it, thank you.
 
 
 Cheers,
 --=20
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