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Date:      Sat, 28 Jul 2001 10:14:28 +0200
From:      Peter Mutsaers <peter@mutsaers.com>
To:        java@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: JDK2 binary update
Message-ID:  <3B627464.2050703@mutsaers.com>
References:  <F163bhsKd6QR7j1HaKt00003c3b@hotmail.com>

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John Daniels wrote:


> 
> It's only a matter of time before a major vendor supports a next 
> generation programming language on FreeBSD.  The longer that it takes 
> Sun to welcome FreeBSD into the Java community, the less I care if that 
> is Sun or MS.
> 


Indeed, Suns lack of support is inexcusable, is damaging to Java or to 
FreeBSD, depending on your perspective.

In "my world", large applications for banks, virtually everything is 
being rewritten or newly implemented using
- java
- RDBMS (usually Oracle or DB2 on mainframe)
- corba to glue it together

The operating system more and more is only a platform to run java and database.

Other characteristics of the operating system are becoming irrelevant 
(such as filesystem, since everything is either stored in the DB or put 
on the mainframe via corba). Choice of platform only depends on:
- does it run Java2 fast and reliably
- does it run Oracle reliably

It hurts that FreeBSD no longer has a chance, even though as an OS it is 
good and superior to Linux. The only thing that counts is that Linux 
runs Java well, and FreeBSD does not.

The result is, by the way, that we see more and more NT instead of UNIX, 
because although it is crap, it runs Java well (then the database runs 
somewhere else).

Sun had better at least provide an excellent Java/Hotspot for most 
Unices; it is so annoying, almost all software is easily ported between 
all Unix variants, but the only piece of software that really matters 
these days (the JVM) is a sad exception.

Then they might consider to stop support on NT, or at least not provide 
the server-version of Hotspot, to prevent defects from UNIX to NT.



-- 
Peter Mutsaers     |  Dübendorf    | UNIX - Live free or die
peter@mutsaers.com |  Switzerland  | Running FreeBSD 4.3-stable


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