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Date:      Wed, 28 Nov 2001 00:49:15 +0900
From:      Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp>
To:        portmgr@FreeBSD.org
Cc:        freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/Mk bsd.port.mk
Message-ID:  <7mr8qk6wp0.wl@waterblue.imgsrc.co.jp>
In-Reply-To: <3C0353A9.A163A1C2@FreeBSD.org>
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At Tue, 27 Nov 2001 10:49:45 +0200,
Maxim Sobolev wrote:
> > # I think we should use USE_AUTOMAKE_VER?=15 and
> > # undef(USE_AUTOCONF_VER) as default.  We can collect feedback whether
> > # each port can be built with new auto{make,conf} suite.  If some
> > # ports cannot be built with new ones, mark it as
> > # USE_AUTO{CONF,MAKE}_VER explicitly.
> 
> I think more practical approach is to do one test build on bento with
> automake15 turned on by default and see which ports will break. We are
> getting very close to obtaining root on bento cluster, so this could
> be done relatevely soon.

Yes, I understand you (portmgr team) are too busy.  But bento issue is
answered as "soon" many times.

Why do you (portmgr team) *do* everything yourself?  IMHO, portmgr
should *manage* the Ports Collection, should not *do* everything by
theirselves.

As knu said, we have an automated bento cluster.  We can easily test
new auto{conf,make} suite by changing default in bsd.port.mk.  I think
we have enough time for testing by this method before you really get
root privilege.

We also have large number of ports users in ports@FreeBSD.org.  If we
change default of auto{conf,make} suite, I believe we can get many
feedbacks from them.

Please relax and don't take the heavy responsibility upon yourselves
only.  We have many developers, and let's use this resource.


-- 
Jun Kuriyama <kuriyama@imgsrc.co.jp> // IMG SRC, Inc.

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