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Date:      Mon, 6 Mar 2006 16:44:19 -0500
From:      Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
To:        Chad Whitacre <chad@zetaweb.com>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, Kris Kennaway <kris@obsecurity.org>
Subject:   Re: possible umount bugs (was Re: "Panic: unmount: dangling vnode")
Message-ID:  <20060306214419.GA51866@xor.obsecurity.org>
In-Reply-To: <440CAACE.7000504@zetaweb.com>
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On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 04:34:06PM -0500, Chad Whitacre wrote:
> Kris,
>=20
> > A number of problems with umount are due to be fixed in 6.1 ...
>=20
> Wow, ok. Thanks for the heads-up. That's honestly a little disappointing=
=20
> to hear. I had hoped it was a problem with my backup script.

The rule of thumb is that user code should not cause kernel panics.
But all software has bugs, of course.

> I posted a fuller description of this and another problem last week.=20
> Here's the archive link:
>=20
> http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/2006-March/114825.ht=
ml
>=20
>=20
> The two notes I would add to that post are:
>=20
>   1. The "dangling vnode" symptom did happen one other time when the box
>      first came online several months ago. The other sysadmin rebooted
>      and no further action was taken.
>=20
>   2. We do not have a core dump from the latest "dangling vnode" bout,
>      due to the system apparently hanging.
>=20
>=20
> Is it likely that known umount problems explain the other symptom=20
> ("umount: unmount of /backup failed: Device busy")?

That's completely standard and just means something still had a file
open on that filesystem.  Use fstat or lsof to find out what.

> This is actually a production box, so I can't do too much testing on it.=
=20
> I may be able to install the patch, though, in which case I will report=
=20
> back.

Thanks.

Kris

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