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Date:      Fri, 21 Jan 2000 23:15:44 -0700
From:      Brett Glass <brett@lariat.org>
To:        Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
Cc:        Dag-Erling Smorgrav <des@flood.ping.uio.no>, Keith Stevenson <k.stevenson@louisville.edu>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Some observations on stream.c and streamnt.c
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.20000121231109.019c04a0@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <200001220600.WAA67669@apollo.backplane.com>
References:  <4.2.2.20000120194543.019a8d50@localhost> <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001211419010.3943-100000@tetron02.tetronsoftware.com> <20000121162757.A7080@osaka.louisville.edu> <xzpk8l2lul4.fsf@flood.ping.uio.no> <4.2.2.20000121195112.0196a220@localhost> <4.2.2.20000121210443.01981600@localhost>

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At 11:00 PM 1/21/2000 , Matthew Dillon wrote:

>    I don't think you quite understand how IRC weenies and script kiddies
>     work.

Funny you should say that. I've been watching some at work this evening. ;-)

>    They don't know or care what kind of machine is on the other
>     end of the network.  They simply run their entire suite of tools until
>     they find one that works.

Many of those tools contain probes which rely on getting RSTs. No RST, and
they go no farther. Also, some of the kiddiez scan and then come back later 
with other tools.

>    It's kinda amusing to watch, actually.  

THAT I'll agree with.

 >    One time Dima and I sat down and watched one of these
>     bozos try to run a suite of SGI exploits on a FreeBSD shell box.  He
>     was so stupid he didn't even know he was sitting in a FreeBSD shell
>     session!

You should see the ones who get onto the honeypot system at one of my 
clients' sites. Most of them need a community college-level UNIX course.

--Brett



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