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Date:      Fri, 6 Feb 1998 18:59:26 +0100 (MET)
From:      Wilko Bulte <wilko@yedi.iaf.nl>
To:        freebsd@isvara.net
Cc:        hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: wd0s1e hard errors
Message-ID:  <199802061759.SAA01188@yedi.iaf.nl>
In-Reply-To: <34DACF35.8C9CE0C7@challenge.isvara.net> from "freebsd@isvara.net" at "Feb 6, 98 08:52:05 am"

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As freebsd@isvara.net wrote...
> Yoah!
> 
> Terry Lambert wrote:
> 
> > > Should bad144 be retired?
> >
> > Why, have you come up with a new "media perfection layer" which
> > sits in Julian's new slice code under devfs to replace it so you
> > can still use WD1007 ESDI controllers, MFM, RLL, and other drives
> > that don't support automatic bad sector forwarding?
> 
> IMHO:
> There is only *very few* IDE discs used today which don't remap the data
> over media defects. All these harddiscs are often quite small - hell,
> even my old 40MB Conner and 80MB Quantum harddiscs have defect
> management. RLL, ESDI and MFM disks are REALLY old, small and slow.

Oh? I've a no-budget Webserver running on a 350 Mb ESDI. Another machine
uses a 650Mb ESDI. There have been AFAIK 1Gb ESDI drives.

> Of course, you can't put much on small harddiscs anyway, so anyone using

Don't think 'anyone' is the same as yourself....

> FreeBSD or any other unix flavour will probably have >170MB (at least)
> of IDE storage (or SCSI), therefore they will have automatic defect
> management.

Not true.

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