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Date:      Fri, 30 Oct 1998 10:19:54 -0500 (EST)
From:      Robert Watson <robert@cyrus.watson.org>
To:        Garrett Wollman <wollman@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>
Cc:        John Hay <jhay@mikom.csir.co.za>, obrien@NUXI.com, tseidmann@simultan.ch, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: IPv6 in -current
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.981030101356.12618A-100000@fledge.watson.org>
In-Reply-To: <199810291537.KAA00450@khavrinen.lcs.mit.edu>

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On Thu, 29 Oct 1998, Garrett Wollman wrote:

> > we can get a version of IPv6 standard in FreeBSD. I have been looking at
> > (and using) the KAME stuff the last few weeks and am quite impressed
> > with it. One of the advantages (for me) about the KAME stack is that we
> > also get their IPSEC stuff, while with INRIA being in France, it makes
> > things a little more complicated.
> 
> Don't forget there's also the group of people who worked on the NRL
> stack....
> 
> The other question that people have to consider whenever IPv6 comes
> up: with whom are you going to communicate?  Right now, there is no
> globally-routed IPv6 infrastructure, and there is unlikely to be any,
> any time soon (IOS 12, anyone?).  I am prefectly happy with the state
> of the world where we can advance our technological goals in the
> context of IPv4, and let other parties provide an IPv6 implementation.

On the other hand, there are a lot of people who use FreeBSD for network
research and development (well, certainly at CMU, and I assume other
places).  As time goes by, will we start to lose some of these researchers
because we don't offer the next generation of network support?  I admit
that I was extremely impressed when I looked at the BSD/OS 4.0 release
notes and saw so many of the features I would look for in a network
operating system/server platform (good SMP, IPsec, IPv6, and many many
other new features).  I would guess that relatively few people actually
use a number of these features, but it is nice to know they are available.

On the other hand, it is useful to note that a number of groups have been
developing IPv6 and IPsec on FreeBSD, and we don't want to leave them high
and dry, as it were.

One of the issues that I've raised in the Coda group previously is
adaptability of the current Coda software for use in new network
environments, including IPv6 and IPsec.  I don't have the time to
integrate IPsec and IPv6 into an operating system, but I would benefit
from an operating system where they were already present.  :)  

  Robert N Watson 

Carnegie Mellon University            http://www.cmu.edu/
TIS Labs at Network Associates, Inc.  http://www.tis.com/
SafePort Network Services             http://www.safeport.com/
robert@fledge.watson.org              http://www.watson.org/~robert/


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