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Date:      Tue, 25 Jun 2002 14:54:18 -0500 (CDT)
From:      John Utz <john@utzweb.net>
To:        freebsd-java@freebsd.org
Subject:   A Call to Action for freebsd-java based on the results of my conversation with Sun Java Technologist Charles Ditzel
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206251425100.29047-100000@jupiter.linuxengine.net>

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Hello everybody;

	As i mentioned in an earlier post, we where blessed with a visit
from a Sun Java guy (Charles Ditzel) courtesy of our local sun reseller
person. we have lotsa good stuff that we bought from him (the reseller,
not charles ) during the closing part of the glory VC days.

	Given my longstanding rabid interest in promoting FreeBSD, I
talked to him about FreeBSD support. He was aware of it's existence, but
not up on the specifics. I didnt find his lack of specific knowledge to be 
troubling because he didnt have specific knowledge about most of the 
stuff. To use a compsci analogy, he seemed to be a root node :-).

	I thanked him on behalf of the list for the support that sun has 
provided up to now ( good suggestion dave! ). I told him that i was 
running 1.3.1p5 pretty flawlessly on FreeBSD and i explained to him that 
the port didnt have hotspot running yet.

	I explained to him further that FreeBSD was going to have some 
challenges moving to 1.4 because of the disappearance of 'classic' mode in 
1.4 and that we could really use some direct contact with Sun Engineers to 
help with HotSpot.

	He was aware of the fact that M$FT has been working in the BSD 
realm and he was interested in facilitating communication between the GBSD 
community and the Sun Java developers.

	So, I would imagine that if we get our heads together and try and 
figure out exactly what it is that we would want from him we would 
probably meet with some success.

	The key point being that we need to create a request that contains 
specific action items that he can 

  1. understand immediately so that he can work on the *problem*, not on 
     trying to figure out what we want.

  2. solve easily by putting us in contact with the person at sun who can 
     help.

If we meet these goals, then we help ourselves by helping him to do his 
developer outreach job effectively. 

I can imagine that being able to write in his self evaluation form for his
salary review 'I helped the FreeBSD Community complete it's port of jdk
1.4.x, thereby expanding the reach of java to X100,000 new machines' would 
make him feel very happy indeed.


I am happy to write the letter, or i am happy to let ernst or greg or bill 
nate or freebsd-core write it. i dont care. i just want this to help 
because i this is a key strategic issue for freebsd.

i hope we can leverage this opportunity!

johnu


-- 

John L. Utz III
john@utzweb.net

Idiocy is the Impulse Function in the Convolution of Life


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