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Date:      Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:23:06 -0600
From:      Scott Long <scottl@samsco.org>
To:        Wilko Bulte <wb@freebie.xs4all.nl>
Cc:        src-committers@FreeBSD.org, John Baldwin <jhb@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, "Liam J. Foy" <liamfoy@sepulcrum.org>, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Dag-Erling_Sm=F8rgrav?= <des@des.no>, Peter Grehan <grehan@FreeBSD.org>
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/tools/tools/tinderbox/etc current.rc head.rc update_current.rc update_head.rc
Message-ID:  <42E1398A.3000104@samsco.org>
In-Reply-To: <20050722173913.GA20844@freebie.xs4all.nl>
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Wilko Bulte wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2005 at 12:25:01PM +0200, Dag-Erling Smrgrav wrote..
> 
>>Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net> writes:
>>
>>>This change was without warning and without cause. He unilaterally
>>>decided that the work and effort put in by others was beneath his
>>>attention and concern by making the commit like this. And if des@ is
>>>incapable of even the most basic forms of communication that he
>>>cannot express his predicament or explain his reasons for this
>>>change and ask for input even after the fact, then he shouldn't even
>>>be making commits in the first place.
>>
>>I'm sorry, Marcel, but you are completely off base.
>>
>>The tinderbox is a service I provide to the FreeBSD developers because
>>I (and many others) feel that it is useful.  I have spent a lot of
>>time and effort developing, maintaining and running it for the past
>>three or four years with *zero* assistance from anyone except Mike
>>Tancsa (who hosts the current cluster and has gone above & beyond to
>>keep it running in the face of hardware failures and my screwups) and
>>John De Boskey (who hosted the previous cluster until Real Life made
>>it impossible for him to keep up).  Most importantly, I have received
>>no assistance from the FreeBSD Project, and considerable resistance
>>from several of its members.
> 
> 
> Not knowing any of the details:  would it be possible to spread the load
> over multiple machines?  Say have one box do the tier 1 stuff, box 2
> do the tier 2 or something like that?
> 
> And it is of course reasonable to have this stuff run on the project's
> machines, kinda crazy that it takes your $$ etc.
> 

I'd be happy to put a machine into service to help with the load.

Scott



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