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Date:      Fri, 14 Aug 2020 13:36:21 -0500
From:      Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Complete idiots guide to virtualize Android with bhyve
Message-ID:  <558de385-08de-935d-4bce-2ef8d19cd77b@kicp.uchicago.edu>
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On 2020-08-14 11:01, Andrea Venturoli wrote:
> On 2020-08-05 09:13, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
>> it doesn't make sense to install an operating system that doesn't
>> fit the users needs and then to emulate a mobile phone on that
>> operating system, to run the required applications. That is the most
>> worst mismanagement possible in the first place.
> 
> Well, I think there are situation in which virtualizing Android does 
> make sense.
> I need a desktop system 99% of the time, but I have an Android app (*) 
> that I'd need to run occasionally.
> 
> (*) Not Zoom. It's an app that shouldn't probably exist in the first 
> place, but so it is.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> You are using an operating system not providing what you actually
>> need,
> 
> No, I'm using an operating system which gives me 99% of what I need.
> 
> 
> 
>> so to workaround the wrong choice done in the first place, you
>> consider to use a virtual machine, but not to run the most useful guest
>> for your purpose, instead you consider to try the most freakish
>> "solution".
> 
> No again.
> Really.
> Unfortunately that app is available for Android and iOS, so it's not a 
> matter of "freak".
> 
> 
> 
>> Why not running iOS or iPadOS as virtualbox guest?
> 
> Licensing issues, I guess.
> Is it possible to run those OSes freely?
> 

You are absolutely correct. Apple allows to run their OSes on Apple 
hardware only. Period.

Valeri

> 
> 
> 
> 
> To come up with something costructive, I've never run Android on bhyve, 
> but I have on VirtualBox: performance is horrible, there are no guest 
> additions, but it works for an occasional use.
> 
> 
> 
>   bye
>      av.
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